Is FFXI getting a cash shop?

[Comeatmebro]

His post on this page was actually trying to save it, some crap like.. 'if you had any brain youd know i switched to my main because people thought i was trolling'. Guess he realized how stupid that sounded and edited it.

[Blazeoffury]

No i just couldn't be bothered to fight with you over it so i edited it but as you want to bring it up i'll happily repeat it for you.

There is no winning with you people because if i post on a level 1 char it's considered trolling regardless if what i said is how i feel, so i signed onto my main char and continued on to then have someone as "smart" as you point out that it was stilll me, well no fucking shit Sherlock that's exactly why i logged onto this account.

[Seillan]

I love seeing a troll get humiliated by being caught in an act like this. There is seriously no greater satisfaction. The desperate backpedaling only makes it better, lol.

[Blazeoffury]

I love seeing a troll get humiliated by being caught in an act like this. There is seriously no greater satisfaction. The desperate backpedaling only makes it better, lol.

Omg lol caught in the act. I signed onto my main account so people would stop with the trolling comments you dolt. My points still stand and i stand by them, people are crying over a possible vaniety shop, it's not pay to win who cares. The game is on it's way out a little bit slower than i would personally like but anyone who denys this is in complete denial about the server numbers and a lot of the rehashed content we are getting, not all content but a lot is rehashed. The way some of the fans were acting at the 14 fan fest was cringe worthy at best and down right creepy at worst.

[Seillan]

Omg lol caught in the act. I signed onto my main account so people would stop with the trolling comments you dolt. My points still stand and i stand by them, people are crying over a possible vaniety shop, it's not pay to win who cares. The game is on it's way out a little bit slower than i would personally like but anyone who denys this is in complete denial about the server numbers and a lot of the rehashed content we are getting, not all content but a lot is rehashed. The way some of the fans were acting at the 14 fan fest was cringe worthy at best and down right creepy at worst.

Ah, so people that switch accounts so they won't be accused of trolling tend to use that account to agree with themselves as if they're different people, or did you forget you posted this gem?

I agree it really is time for the game to be given an end date. It has gotten old stale, boring. Watching the playerbase wank themselves silly over redoing af/relic armor to 119 it's time for this old dog to be taken out back and given the old yellow treatment.

Haha, this is just too effing good. Please, keep it coming. /popcorn

[Dale]

No i just couldn't be bothered to fight with you over it so i edited it but as you want to bring it up i'll happily repeat it for you.

There is no winning with you people because if i post on a level 1 char it's considered a troll regardless if what i said is how i feel, so i signed onto my main char and continued on to then have someone as "smart" as you point out that it was stilll me, well no fucking shit Sherlock that's exactly why i logged onto this account.

Posting on a level 1 character is not an example of trolling I agree. There is a tendency on forums to pile on when weakness is sensed. It's that pack dog mentality and always happens when a lot of animals congregate (yes, people are still animals in my estimation). But your posts are needlessly hostile. But that's ok. I can take it.

But I like to think Final Fantasy 14 will never replace Final Fantasy 11 because they are two fundamentally different games. 14 is more like an arcade-type game - as was described so aptly by another poster - where as Final Fantasy 11 retains at least some of the genre's traditional roots.

That being said though: it's impossible to deny that Final Fantasy 14 has hurt Final Fantasy 11's population. The game was an absolute ghost town shortly after its re-release. Though many players have left Final Fantasy 14 and returned home (I am one of them).

But it's likely many of us still have friends who play 14 and that will remain an incentive for some of us to back regardless of how lacking we find the game. In truth: I really do think the ideal solution would be to combine both games into a single subscription plan. I think it would benefit both games to do so. Just to be clear though:

14 is a shameless copy-cat of World of Warcraft. That's all it is. WoW with moogles. And SE frankly should be ashamed of it. But those are just my opinions

Anyway - the cash shop is a bad idea. No one wants Pay-to-Win and it would alienate far more players than it would attract. Cosmetic items I suppose could be thought of as a harmless gesture to boost revenue. A lot of us including myself wouldn't like it. But I doubt anyone would quit over it as long as it stayed purely cosmetic.

[Stompa]

No i just couldn't be bothered to fight with you over it so i edited it but as you want to bring it up i'll happily repeat it for you.

There is no winning with you people because if i post on a level 1 char it's considered trolling regardless if what i said is how i feel, so i signed onto my main char and continued on to then have someone as "smart" as you point out that it was stilll me, well no fucking shit Sherlock that's exactly why i logged onto this account.

Not true, if you posted on a level one char with its very first Post Number One, and wrote some positive constructive feedback / criticisms, my reply would have been "welcome to the Forums" etc. and I would have replied to the salient points you made in your post in a friendly adult manner, as between equals. The reason you got called a troll is because that account had zero posts, and with your very first post you called fans of this game "dregs" and "fools" etc. That is the classic definition of troll, they are literally flame-spewing on their very first post. Like "I only made this account to post this tirade of bitterness on post number one," lol.

Back on topic though, and being as I am in two ancient linkshells founded in 2004, along with some newer linkshells, I can confirm that none of the established playerbase wants to see Creditcard Leapfrogging added to this game. I feel certain that SE would lose a lot of subscriptions if they added a direct pay-cash-for RME / content clears type of system. FFXI has been changed a lot over the years, but it has never been changed in such a fundamental drastic way. Giving people trusts and homepoint warps and sparks, is not the same as giving them a system where they can use Daddy's mastercard to buy Mythics or w/e. Just listening to the chatter on my LS's, I think the game would lose a lot of loyal fans if this change came to pass. Because it would fundamentally change the FFXI effort-reward structure, and thus make it a different game entirely. So SE would have to balance out the income from selling core content wins/gear, with the money they will lose when the actual play-games-on-legitmode people walk out in disgust.

But again, I don't mind people getting special event stuff like Tidal Talisman etc. I havent used my Talisman at all since the Nashmau home-point-warp was added lol, and I used that body to warp for years before the HP-nexus system arrived. These are fun quirky gift items and I think SE should add them to the management page for purchase. But no currencies / content progress / serious items, because that would upset players who spent years working on those things.

[Zephrose]

Honestly, FFXI would benefit from adding a Cash Shop. People already buy enough gil on the servers as it is, whether they admit to it or not. By adding a shop, it would cut the middle man and allow you to get the advantage you've been looking for.

Yeah, some people might think that's absurd and totally plays to the rich, but have you ever played any mobile games lately? A couple come to mind such as Puzzle and Dragons and Brave Frontier. Yeah, you can go about playing the games legitimately and say how cool you are for doing it. But who has the time for that any more. If I spend just a few dollars to give me a boost to completion, I'd take that in a heart beat. I mean really, who wants to waste a minimum of 5 months on completing a Mythic anymore, especially if they have a limited time to play in the first place.

Vanity and Promotional items are a given for the shop. But adding a shop to help out in those crunch times would be fantastic.

[Finuve]

Honestly, FFXI would benefit from adding a Cash Shop. People already buy enough gil on the servers as it is, whether they admit to it or not. By adding a shop, it would cut the middle man and allow you to get the advantage you've been looking for.

Yeah, some people might think that's absurd and totally plays to the rich, but have you ever played any mobile games lately? A couple come to mind such as Puzzle and Dragons and Brave Frontier. Yeah, you can go about playing the games legitimately and say how cool you are for doing it. But who has the time for that any more. If I spend just a few dollars to give me a boost to completion, I'd take that in a heart beat. I mean really, who wants to waste a minimum of 5 months on completing a Mythic anymore, especially if they have a limited time to play in the first place.

Vanity and Promotional items are a given for the shop. But adding a shop to help out in those crunch times would be fantastic.

everything you said sounds awful (including sold vanity gear), and I still havent gotten my relic past 95.

[Zephrose]

everything you said sounds awful (including sold vanity gear), and I still havent gotten my relic past 95.

One line replies like this are very constructive to conversations such as this. I commend your critical thinking and focus to this thread.

On topic though, why WOULD a Shop be a good or bad thing to have around? Honestly, who still plays this game long enough to get anything come? You have to play for at least three hours daily to get anything important done. That includes logging in, running around town, doing the event(s) you wanted to touch, and then settling down to log off. Who has time from this any more?