i don't remember who said it in this thread, but whoever said it doesn't matter how much gil you have because there is no supply: create the market. if you are willing to pay enough people will go in droves to farm HMP/Cinders. You'll probably complain that you don't want to spend that much gil. Tough, that's supply/demand. You have to make things worthwhile to people, or have friends/LS willing to help.