General complaint thread

[mattkoko]

ok here we go again... you are forgetting about relic feet: 5/5 merits = 25%, add feet, that's another 25%. so you're looking at 7.5 minutes. I put about 8 with a question mark because I knew it was somewhere around there. Sometimes I wonder if you play BLU as much as you say you do. Or maybe you just don't play it properly/gimped. You say I have a pattern of over exaggerating. where? that's right, I don't. I also question the things you say because you lumped a BLU in the PLD party. And you seem to think PLD needs haste. All events that a PLD is brought to is because there are RNGs. Decoy Shot says hi. Any other fights you don't bring PLDs because it is a waste. Sure, giving the PLD haste will benefit, but it's not as big of a deal as you make it out to be. Maybe you play with a group of people in a non-standard way where you put BLUs in with PLDs, more power to you. The rest of us don't.

The reason I say those things about BLU is I've seen 2 BLUs in delve keep an NM terrorized for almost the entire duration of its life. I've seen a BLU be able to heavy gravity a ton of mobs and kite them in pinch situations or just spam that spell and kill them all at once. I've seen BLU erasega and fully heal the party as if it was a WHM. I've seen BLU with like 3000 defense (though I think he might have had a minne or two), my PLD doesn't come even close to that. I've seen mythic BLU with unlimited MP. I've seen BLU outparsing MNKs. The list goes on.

You state RDM is seen as a support job. This is your own bias. RDM is a jack-of-all trades; whether it be DD, support, tank, healer... I've done them all.

As to your comment regarding how I fared against that MNK, keep in mind that I am not anywhere near the average RDM. I have put massive amounts of time and effort into it and have pretty much the best gear in all aspects. You also need to keep in mind that the SAMs were doing over double the damage of the MNK. Now SAMs are waaaaaay OP.

So I know I said I would not add anymore to the blu vs red mage portion of this thread but considering more and more jobs seem to be getting involved I figured it wouldn't hurt lol

So I stand corrected again. And again admit I am wrong. But it's alright. Hey, in order to learn, ya gotta get hit in the head a couple times. In this case I facepalmed myself twice. As for your comment about me possibly being gimped, I honestly did not really look toward relic for blu yet mainly because my my main job is drk and been so focused on decking that out (full 119 and filling in some gear swap slots to boost utility type stuff). I took about a year break and came back on the day they increased Ilevel to 119. Blu is my second main. Is it gimped now? I wouldn't say that, but I would say it would be about average as I have played it a bit and made improvements (blu has helped me a great deal with soloing some of the battle fields for chapters 1-5 so having at least a 119 weapon with some 119 pieces I felt was necessary). As far as me bringing blu and pld in the same party, it is something I have done, but I was not talking about that specifically. I was talking about haste in general. Coming back I quickly realized I had to level whm to get into anything because it was either 119 or gtfo unless your a whm or brd. And no matter what job I came to an event in, if there was a pld the main thing every pld asked for was haste (along with pretty much every DD other then rng). Your argument, was talking about aoe buffs, and my main argument back is, if people want buffs, they are not going to look to a blu that can aoe buffs every 10 minutes. They are going to look to a job that can keep those buffs up full time rather then only 80% of the time. It is Utility at best.

As far as me being bias to rdm, keep in mind, I have always seen rdm as a jack of all trades as well. However, it seems like SE is making them into a support class because jack of all trades is nice solo, and in some strategic party situations, but master of non doesn't get you into groups unless you established yourself well enough to others (which it seems like you have since you completely decked out your rdm). To counter this, SEs last rdm updated introduced spells in the support department in the way of debuffs. Which is why I link them in the support department considering that seems to be the direction they are taking. The same goes for blu though in a different way. I have used blu to tank, heal, buff, debuff etc. However, this does not get you into groups as i said before. If they want a healer, they are going to get the best possible healer (whm although I have seen some pretty amazing Sch fill this role as well). If they want a buffer or a support, they are going to get a brd. Next in line is usually cor, geo and rdm if they cannot find a brd (though from what I have seen, geo is getting better and I have also been with some rdms filling the support role). To counter this for blu though, they gave a pretty decent boost to their physical spells, to put them more in the DD category. Now with all of this said, I do not disagree with you. I certainly don't think increased enspells or giving them sword A or A+ will break the job in anyway. But it seems all of the job adjustment updates have been to get more jobs in group content, rather then solo content.

I do apologize for getting a little snippy. I sensed some attitude toward blu from you and I jumped to the defensive. As far as your pattern of exaggerating comment, you made every single spell that you listed seem way more glorified then they actually are. The only spell you listed that was not blown up too much was cocoon and AT (again, considering AT for a while is all we were wanted for and still in some cases that is the only reason we are able to participate). However in your previous posts, your examples were much more realistic. However, I still wouldn't say they are over powered just because you still have to sacrifice to be able to do any of the rolls effectively due to spell set points, where rdm can adapt in a pinch. I do agree with you that mythic blu is beyond OP. But you can say the same about many of the mythic wielders. Now back in the abyssea era, if you came in and said blu was op, I would not disagree with you in the slightest. Blu was beyond over powered in abyssea with the right gear and atmas.