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    Player Dale's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Afania View Post
    More like you have a very strange idea about what being punished is.....

    If I can do yorcia in 15~20 min with 3 proper DD, then we change job to 3 shield WAR and spend 30+ min instead, I wasted 10~15 min because we want to role play.

    So what's the point to change job to a shield WAR just because we like it? We only got punished by spending more time.
    No it's more like you do.

    In your eyes unless someone helps you the fastest they are somehow punishing you. So I guess if someone gave you a lift to work they would be punishing you unless they drove you to work in a Ferrari or something. It's just ludicrous. And heaven forbid players role play on a role playing game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dale View Post
    No it's more like you do.

    In your eyes unless someone helps you the fastest they are somehow punishing you. So I guess if someone gave you a lift to work they would be punishing you unless they drove you to work in a Ferrari or something. It's just ludicrous. And heaven forbid players role play on a role playing game.
    Using a Ferrari isn't a good example at all. I don't have Ferrari, if I need to go somewhere I can't use it. So I'd just accept w/e I got.

    If you're a WAR with no GA nor GA skill leveled, and all you have is one 1h weapon in your inv, then I suppose it's not a punishment.

    If you have both GA and 1h weapon to choose from, and choose not to use a GA, then you're purposely choosing to do it slow and grind less stuff/hr because you want to role play.

    Think of it this way, you're doing a job you enjoy and make $5/hr, v.s doing another job you don't enjoy which makes $20/hr. Why can't you do a job you enjoy and make $20/hr instead? You're being punished for doing a job you enjoy, so how is it not a punishment? You're grinding less plasm/hr because you want to role play or do something you enjoy, seems like a punishment to me.

    I didn't say anything about "you can't role play", stop playing the "I want to role play in MMORPG" card. I'm talking about something completely different, which is "you make less plasm/hr and grind less stuff/hr if you want to role play".

    Also stop thinking I always want the fastest setup possible, I do delve on BLU a lot, which is not an efficient DD at all. I do it to have fun, but I wouldn't pretend it's not a punishment to my pt when I play BLU. It's just that my friends/lsmate can accept it, it doesn't mean it's not a punishment.

    You can accept a fun job making $5/hr is different from pretending making $5 is not a punishment when you can make $20.
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    Last edited by Afania; 10-18-2014 at 02:12 PM.

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    Player Dale's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Afania View Post
    Using a Ferrari isn't a good example at all. I don't have Ferrari, if I need to go somewhere I can't use it. So I'd just accept w/e I got.

    If you're a WAR with no GA nor GA skill leveled, and all you have is one 1h weapon in your inv, then I suppose it's not a punishment.

    If you have both GA and 1h weapon to choose from, and choose not to use a GA, then you're purposely choosing to do it slow and grind less stuff/hr because you want to role play.

    Think of it this way, you're doing a job you enjoy and make $5/hr, v.s doing another job you don't enjoy which makes $20/hr. Why can't you do a job you enjoy and make $20/hr instead? You're being punished for doing a job you enjoy, so how is it not a punishment? You're grinding less plasm/hr because you want to role play or do something you enjoy, seems like a punishment to me.

    I didn't say anything about "you can't role play", stop playing the "I want to role play in MMORPG" card. I'm talking about something completely different, which is "you make less plasm/hr and grind less stuff/hr if you want to role play".

    Also stop thinking I always want the fastest setup possible, I do delve on BLU a lot, which is not an efficient DD at all. I do it to have fun, but I wouldn't pretend it's not a punishment to my pt when I play BLU. It's just that my friends/lsmate can accept it, it doesn't mean it's not a punishment.

    You can accept a fun job making $5/hr is different from pretending making $5 is not a punishment when you can make $20.
    But it was a good example. From all you have said, unless someone helps you as efficiently and quickly as possible you view it as a punishment. And to touch on what you said, even if you had two choices for a drive to work - one in a Ferrari and another in a station wagon... it doesn't really matter. The person driving you to work in a station wagon is still doing you a favor and it's faster than walking your butt to work. So to view someone helping you as punishment because you had better choices is still extremely misguided - to use a mild term.

    And if you want me to stop thinking you always want the fastest set up possible, then you should probably stop putting such an emphasis on it. All I ever read from you on these forums is spreadsheets and dps and how players should do the most damage as possible else they are punishing other players, a leech, and should be barred from all activity outside of role play. So the only one to blame for my impressions of how you think is yourself.
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    Last edited by Dale; 10-21-2014 at 01:29 AM.