[Dev1235] Job Adjustments

[Dale]

What else do you expect? I can't change your opinion about a shield WAR, nor have interest to. I did point out it's an ineffective way to play the game math wise, but if you don't accept it then it's none of my business. It's your money and time after all.

Also it seems that you often like to force your own opinion on others and sugarcoat it into "justice" without realizing it. You're allowed to criticize others for disapproving shield WAR, you're allowed to be intolerant toward others because they're intolerant. And you do all that because everyone else is "narrowed minded", without realizing that you're not all that different.

It seems that you're no different from the ppl you disapprove of, IMO.

No because I recognize your right not to group with a shield warrior if you don't want to. So it's not nearly the same as you thinking they have no right to be in a group at all because of how they play.

I only ask that you not criticize them for it or suggest they should never join any content outside of role playing because you view them as leeches...

And I don't really think that's too much to ask.

[Afania]

No because I recognize your right not to group with a shield warrior if you don't want to. So it's not nearly the same as you thinking they have no right to be in a group at all because of how they play.

They only have right if others accept them, only the pt member can give them right to be in their group, so that's the same....I don't know what kind of point you're trying to make anymore.

[Dale]

They only have right if others accept them, only the pt member can give them right to be in their group, so that's the same....I don't know what kind of point you're trying to make anymore.

And that's where you're wrong. A player's right to play their job as they wish is not based on rather you accept them or not. That is the point I'm trying to make.

If don't want to group with them fine. Don't group with them. But don't say things like that player shouldn't join any content other than role playing simply because you don't approve of them.

[Afania]

And that's where you're wrong. A player's right to play their job as they wish is not based on rather you accept them or not. That is the point I'm trying to make.

If don't want to group with them fine. Don't group with them. But don't say things like that player shouldn't join any content other than role playing simply because you don't approve of them.

Except this isn't just me? There are way more players that's not interested in clearing the content in 40 min instead of 20.

I also find it silly that you continue to say "Afania don't approve a shield WAR". When's the last time you see someone /shouting for a shield WAR?

Oh and btw, this is a MMORPG with group content, if you think ppl really have right to choose job out of their own free will, you're wrong. What job you can play in this game is mostly based on the other's approval, this applies to more than just shield WAR.

[Dale]

Oh and btw, this is a MMORPG with group content, if you think ppl really have right to choose job out of their own free will, you're wrong. What job you can play in this game is mostly based on the other's approval, this applies to more than just shield WAR.

I hope you do not really believe this. Because if you think what job I play on this game is based on your approval or anyone's else's for that matter you are more mistaken than even I thought.

And I refer to you as Afania because that is your name and who I am talking to you. You aren't some entity who speaks for the greater community. Me or none of my friends would have any problems playing with a shield warrior so long as they played well and worked as a team. Not everyone thinks as you do. And the majority opinion is often the silent one, so please don't try and use shouts in Jueno as some evidence that your opinions are somehow more important than mine.

[Afania]

I hope you do not really believe this. Because if you think what job I play on this game is based on your approval or anyone's else's for that matter you are more mistaken than even I thought.

And I refer to you as Afania because that is your name and who I am talking to you. You aren't some entity who speaks for the greater community. Me and none of my friends would have no problems playing with a shield warrior so long as they played well and worked as a team. Not everyone thinks as you do. And the majority opinion is often the silent one, so please don't try and use shouts in Jueno as some evidence that your opinions are somehow more important than mine.

Your ability to twist the meaning of my words is amazing. I said "other's approval", it means more than just ME.

Try to log on and join a pt on a shield WAR that's not made by Afania, do that for 1 month, see if PUG leaders start to /blist you.

I didn't say your opinion isn't important, I only point out that you're the minority.

Why I know it's minority? Cuz I know majority of the PUG leader/event leader on my server, afaik none of them would make a DD pt full of shield WAR.

If shield WAR is a high demand job in this game, I wouldn't even argue about this topic for 5 pages. I'd just say "Yes, shield war is amazing, we should just use a shield on a WAR" and end this discussion.

[Dale]

Your ability to twist the meaning of my words is amazing. I said "other's approval", it means more than just ME.

Try to log on and join a pt on a shield WAR that's not made by Afania, do that for 1 month, see if PUG leaders start to /blist you.

I didn't say your opinion isn't important, I only point out that you're the minority.

Why I know it's minority? Cuz I know majority of the PUG leader/event leader on my server, afaik none of them would make a DD pt full of shield WAR.

If shield WAR is a high demand job in this game, I wouldn't even argue about this topic for 5 pages. I'd just say "Yes, shield war is amazing, we should just use a shield on a WAR and end this discussion"

And your ability to twist my words is equally amazing because I said if you think what job I play on this game is based on your approval or anyone's else's for that matter you are more mistaken than even I thought.

And you don't have to say shield warriors are amazing. Simply not be annoyed by them or say they shouldn't join any content outside of role-playing and that would suffice.