[Dev1235] Job Adjustments

[Afania]

I never said he wasn't free or didn't have the choice to be annoyed by it. But I am also free with the choice to think it's silly to let such a small thing annoy you.

Of course you're free to think that way, but you can also choose not to say it.

[Dale]

Of course you're free to think that way, but you can also choose not to say it.

That's true. But that would kind of defeat my whole purpose of being in this forum if I chose not to give my opinions about things.

Part of my purpose on this forum is to attempt to broaden the perspective of people so players won't look down on or be annoyed by other players just because they play different jobs or in different ways. There needs to be a lot more live and let live in the MMORPGs generally, because it's approaching a very destructive tipping point that is quite frankly ruining the whole genre and reducing the gameplay to a boring comparison of numbers - rather the unique blend of many different and interesting individual play-styles as it should be.

[Afania]

That's true. But that would kind of defeat my whole purpose of being in this forum if I chose not to give my opinions about things.

Part of my purpose on this forum is to attempt to broaden the perspective of people so players won't look down on or be annoyed by other players just because they play different jobs or in different ways. There needs to be a lot more live and let live in the MMORPGs generally, because it's approaching a very destructive tipping point that is quite frankly ruining the whole genre and reducing the gameplay to a boring comparison of numbers - rather the unique blend of many different and interesting individual play-styles as it should be.

You didn't broaden ppl's perspective, as I said in previous posts....I'm not against different playstyle, but the only way to make different playstyle work is to design the game that way.

I adapt different playstyle all the time, I've used like 11 different SJ on COR in my life, /WAR /WHM /BLM /RDM /RNG /SAM /NIN /DRG /BLU /SCH /DNC, I can probably name a few situational use for /SMN as well. I still use /WHM /DNC /DRG and /NIN pretty actively, others not so much. Every SJ is a completely different playstyle that's effective for certain situation, not all of them are about "the best dmg!" So it's certainly a biased opinion if you think I just want da best dmg with a narrow minded POV toward playstyle.

In all those shield WAR argument, you've never actually tell us WHY a WAR should use a shield, except "SE said so in 2003!" or "it's just a playstyle!"

Should I play BLU/MNK not equipping any weapon and tell everyone "I want to play BLU fighting bare fists like Kung Fu panda because that's my playstyle!"

That's more like role playing, not playstyle.

[Dale]

You didn't broaden ppl's perspective, as I said in previous posts....I'm not against different playstyle, but the only way to make different playstyle work is to design the game that way.

I adapt different playstyle all the time, I've used like 11 different SJ on COR in my life, /WAR /WHM /BLM /RDM /RNG /SAM /NIN /DRG /BLU /SCH /DNC, I can probably name a few situation use for /SMN as well. I still use /WHM /DNC /DRG and /NIN pretty actively, others not so much. Every SJ is a completely different playstyle that's effective for certain situation, not all of them are about "the best dmg!" So it's certainly a biased opinion if you think I just want da best dmg with a narrow minded POV toward playstyle.

In all those shield WAR argument, you've never actually tell us WHY a WAR should use a shield, except "SE said so in 2003!" or "it's just a playstyle!"

Should I play BLU/MNK not equipping any weapon and tell everyone "I want to play BLU fighting bare fists like Kung Fu panda because that's my playstyle!"

That's more like role playing, instead of a playstyle.

MMORPGs are about Role Playing. Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing game.

And if you can't even accept that a warrior may choose to use a shield and not be annoyed by it, then I maintain my original point that you are against different playstyles and need to learn to be more tolerant of other players.

[Afania]

MMORPGs are about Role Playing. Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing game.

And if you can't even accept that a warrior may choose to use a shield and not be annoyed by it, then I maintain my original point that you are against different playstyles and need to learn to be more tolerant of other players.

I'm not against role playing in a MMORPG, but role playing is not the same as playstyle.

I agree that role playing is a legit reason to use a shield on WAR, yes.

But I don't agree that it's a "playstyle", no.

You need to see the difference between a playstyle(a way to play the job that's effective and produce a noticeable result) and role playing.

Also, I'm not against players role playing, but they shouldn't join other ppl's event if they want to role play, that's the point. The current game content in FFXI mostly don't design for role playing gameplay.

If ppl want to role play, they should ask SE to design contents/events that reward players role play, instead of complaining about the community "only want to be the best". The community just play the game as intended.

[Dale]

I'm not against role playing in a MMORPG, but role playing is not the same as playstyle.

I agree that role playing is a legit reason to use a shield on WAR, yes.

But I don't agree that it's a "playstyle", no.

You need to see the difference between a playstyle(a way to play the job that's effective and produce a noticeable result) and role playing.

Also, I'm not against players role playing, but they shouldn't join other ppl's event if they want to role play, that's the point. The current game content in FFXI mostly don't design for role playing gameplay.

If ppl want to role play, they should ask SE to design contents/events that reward players role play, instead of complaining about the community "only want to be the best". The community just play the game as intended.

Again: if SE never intended for Warrior to use a sword and shield they would have never given them sword and shield combat skills and Swords and Shields they can use.

Warriors are intended to be a versatile melee job capable of using many different weapons. That is how SE designed them. This opinion of yours that they should only use Great Axes else never join a group or do any content outside of what you refer to as role playing is just your own narrow opinion.

If you don't want to play with a warrior who uses a shield then don't. No one is forcing you to. But there is no good reason to get annoyed at those who do.