[Dev1235] Job Adjustments

[Byrth]

They also gave Ninjas, who were already better DDs than DNC or THF against a lot of content, kick-Katanas. Why don't you declare the death of your job for that reason? By the way, they buffed WAR as well (a better DD than DNC, THF, or NIN). Why doesn't that get you in the gut?


How goddamned dumb are people that they honestly think they're competing with the other melee jobs for DPS? There is no competition. If you want damage, you bring SAM. Reasons to bring other melee include:
1) You can't find a Tsurumaru (or better) SAM, so you bring a job that buffs the SAM indirectly in some way (DRG, DNC)
2) You can't find a Tsurumaru (or better) SAM, so you sacrifice the DPS and get a mythic heavy DD (WAR, DRK, DRG).
3) Pity (Q.Q)
4) TH (THF)


^ See? The only category DNC and THF compete in is the pity category.

[Atomic_Skull]

You really can't understand if you aren't a mainjob THF. It's not about invites or utility it's about THF loosing it's place as the master of daggers to another job. It's like if SE suddenly gave WAR an A+ in Scythe, no matter how it affected DRKs they would be very angry.

[Ziyyigo-Tipyigo]

It's not about invites or utility it's about THF loosing it's place as the master of daggers to another job.

My PLD has the uncontested highest club skill in the game but I still can't use Hexa Strike.

And there's never really been a true master of daggers. You essentially start the game with the same weapon as a RDM, and share all weapon skills with that job all the way to level 90(!). The only weapon skill you don't share with both DNC and BRD(!) is your job-specific Mythic.

You don't get a Raging Rush, a Hexa Strike, or a Swift Blade all to yourself. Instead, you share everything with support classes, which is what THF was supposed to be to begin with.

[Finuve]

They also gave Ninjas, who were already better DDs than DNC or THF against a lot of content, kick-Katanas. Why don't you declare the death of your job for that reason? By the way, they buffed WAR as well (a better DD than DNC, THF, or NIN). Why doesn't that get you in the gut?


How goddamned dumb are people that they honestly think they're competing with the other melee jobs for DPS? There is no competition. If you want damage, you bring SAM. Reasons to bring other melee include:
1) You can't find a Tsurumaru (or better) SAM, so you bring a job that buffs the SAM indirectly in some way (DRG, DNC)
2) You can't find a Tsurumaru (or better) SAM, so you sacrifice the DPS and get a mythic heavy DD (WAR, DRK, DRG).
3) Pity (Q.Q)
4) TH (THF)


^ See? The only category DNC and THF compete in is the pity category.

im pretty sure everyone realizes (except SE) that SAM is %@&ing stupid

DRK didnt get &*^& either, apparently SE was happy with their cast time reductions to absorb spells last patch which amounts to absolutely nothing

[Ulth]

im pretty sure everyone realizes (except SE) that SAM is %@&ing stupid

DRK didnt get &*^& either, apparently SE was happy with their cast time reductions to absorb spells last patch which amounts to absolutely nothing

I was shocked when they gave HP up to pretty much everyone but DRK. If any job could have benefited from extra HP it would be DRK

[Ataraxia]

They also gave Ninjas, who were already better DDs than DNC or THF against a lot of content, kick-Katanas. Why don't you declare the death of your job for that reason? By the way, they buffed WAR as well (a better DD than DNC, THF, or NIN). Why doesn't that get you in the gut?


How goddamned dumb are people that they honestly think they're competing with the other melee jobs for DPS? There is no competition. If you want damage, you bring SAM. Reasons to bring other melee include:
1) You can't find a Tsurumaru (or better) SAM, so you bring a job that buffs the SAM indirectly in some way (DRG, DNC)
2) You can't find a Tsurumaru (or better) SAM, so you sacrifice the DPS and get a mythic heavy DD (WAR, DRK, DRG).
3) Pity (Q.Q)
4) TH (THF)


^ See? The only category DNC and THF compete in is the pity category.

This taru make a lot of sense and i agree. Byrth have years of experience with FFXI and i'm sure it has done many difficult content and knows about variety of job. I have play so many 99 job and max merits them. The job i do not play is a blue mage and a BLM. If someone gonna complain about DNC than they should do their homework and tell SE what is wrong with a THF and how to make it better. I for once am happy they update DNC and it took them 5 years to come this far. This is only part of update to THF I'm sure there is more if they pay more attention to forum post by SE.