Classic Server

[Pixela]

They are never going to add a classic server, they are battling to keep the current servers around as it is.

[Seish]

You say that, but that's a conjecture.

[Alhanelem]

You say that, but that's a conjecture.

The same is true for the classic server arguments.

The only real argument you have, and it isn't even a good one, is "WoW did it, so FFXI can too!"

WoW achieved far wider mass market appeal and even the fraction of players on WoW classic vs the main game is larger than all of FFXI. You need to learn something about economies of scale to realize that a certain volume of users is required for it to be viable, and WoW easily has enough, but FFXI simply does not.

[Seish]

The same is true for the classic server arguments.

So far, every point you bring I have an answer for. While it's a conjecture what I am saying, there is substance to the argument.

[Alhanelem]

So far, every point you bring I have an answer for. While it's a conjecture what I am saying, there is substance to the argument.

So far, every one of your answers has been illogical and not based on anything other than your own opinion.

(and you basically debunked your own argument by admitting to the conjecture)

[Seish]

So far, every one of your answers has been illogical and not based on anything other than your own opinion.

When one loses an argument, they resort to these tactics. But this is also coming from the person who cannot tell the difference between version build and source code. That was the fundamental component of one of your main arguments--if not your main selling point to yours. I've addressed your points, you have no leg to stand on other than how you personally feel about it. But that alone isn't enough.

Edit: When I quoted you, it was at that time the full comment. I see you have added it prior to my post not showing the edit history.

[Alhanelem]

When one loses an argument, they resort to these tactics. But this is also coming from the person who cannot tell the difference between version build and source code. That was the fundamental component of one of your main arguments--if not your main selling point to yours. I've addressed your points, you have no leg to stand on other than how you personally feel about it. But that alone isn't enough.

When people talk about "winning" or "losing" arguments, they resort to your tactics.

I don't care about winning or losing. I'm just giving my opinion (and watching you embarass yourself <3)

I've given perfectly rational and reasonable statements based on logic and observation. I'm not claiming anything as direct fact, merely my opinion, but that opinion is based on knowledge of economics, my understanding of the playerbase for the games we're discussing, etc.

Your argument has been the entire time, "It worked for somebody else so it must work for SE too."

[Seish]

I was thinking it was a normal discussion til you make those snarky comments like that. Keep it up. It doesn't make you look good. Else you may be banned from this forum too like the XIV forum.

[Alhanelem]

I was thinking it was a normal discussion til you make those snarky comments like that. Keep it up. It doesn't make you look good. Else you may be banned from these forums too.

SE doesn't ban people for giving opinions. I haven't broken any rules or done anything wrong, while what you're doing could be construed as a personal attack.

(And personal attacks in an argument are what's known as the Straw Man fallacy.)

[Seish]

Hey if you really cared about the discussion, you would address those points. If not, and if you have nothing significant and of quality substance to say, then it is probrably best to let this go. Because all it's going to do is wind you up.

Edit: Nice cleanup of that post you made to mask that snarky comment.

Edit 2: No, strawman fallacy is the fallacy to make a second argument to deviate from an argument. Ad hominem is the the fallacy you are thinking about.