Contradance and Steps

[Astrael]

Actually the RDM was there for stuns/nukes only that run, we were testing out Stun recast timers and resist rates before it actually became a thing, so he wasn't there for healing at all. The run was a full 1-5+Boss.

Part of your criticism highlights why people don't use DNC, because it's a hybrid job that isn't specifically a healer, or a debuffer. It's probably not meant to be the best at any of those or even DD, but it does enhance or partner up the effect of the jobs that are. For example, you list superior debuff jobs, but neglect to point out that DNC's debuffs are unresistable, long duration, AND stackable with all the effects detailed. Now, if the only way to "fix" DNC is to make it have one strict primary role, then I don't see any way to do it without crippling its DD ability further, otherwise risking it becoming overpowered. Something would have to give for it to be a top choice in any of the primary roles. Still, I should point out, the less I have to heal, if at all, the stronger DNC becomes as a DD.

Also, I've solo tanked Cailimh on DNC/RUN. No need for PLD or RUN main if your character is geared specifically for it. With Fan Dance, Flash, strong single+area heals and fast attacks with decent dps, it can hold hate just fine. If anything, I forget Animated Flourish even exists and can resort to that if necessary. No, it wasn't easy, but DNC is a lot of work by design.

I've seen the video, and hear similar stories since the WS/skillchain update, but this goes to one of my earlier comments. After a certain point, this becomes less about DNC specifically and more about the question: why even bother with any jobs but the ones clearing content that fast? Which quickly evolves to: why even play the game? All I can add at this point is I'm not theorycrafting here; this all comes from actual experience (to the point people actually prefer me coming DNC to events when I have a very strong relic DRK).

[Ataraxia]

[QUOTE=Astrael;522811]Actually the RDM was there for stuns/nukes only that run, we were testing out Stun recast timers and resist rates before it actually became a thing, so he wasn't there for healing at all. The run was a full 1-5+Boss.

Also, I've solo tanked Cailimh on DNC/RUN. No need for PLD or RUN main if your character is geared specifically for it. With Fan Dance, Flash, strong single+area heals and fast attacks with decent dps, it can hold hate just fine. If anything, I forget Animated Flourish even exists and can resort to that if necessary. No, it wasn't easy, but DNC is a lot of work by design.

I did not think it was possible to do a delve with a DNC and that you point out it can do 1-5+ boss. I have a few question so when you said you Solo Tank Cailmh as DNC/RUN and there wasn't PLD or RUN present and this is actually 1-5 + boss and this set up of yours DNC tank so it work out? Did you get to use song from bard Sentinel's Scherzo or you just tank it straight up using Fan Dance. I think you should probably make a video on youtube than because if you can do this with DNC i'm sure everyone like to know how cool it is to set up a PT. About the video i posted those people clear content level 128 in 15 minute and i was hoping in other zone if they had a DNC set up can they clear it less than 30 minute? maybe not sure if that is even possible with DNC. Here in Odin some of the best LS have only clear less than 20 minute which is really good there was no DNC presented. The video i posted was not meant for you think about clearing content fast but for you to understand that party leader want performance and they will invite those Job that can get it done fast with less risk. Astrael manage to do some difficult content and clear them with DNC so that means SE should focus more on job that really fall behind like a BST and SMN. In conclusion, DNC job working as intended by Dev Team doesn't need an update at all and that some people do not know how to really use this JOB properly the end. :/