So, reforging AF armor requires CoP?

[SNK]

Please explain the logic of allowing upgrading relic to +2 with no COP progress? Yes currently, the reforge is gated by COP - but there is no logical reason to do it that way if you can do EVERY OTHER part of the reforge process (including getting all the items for it and upgrading relic to +2) except the NPC won't talk to you.

Trusts are one thing, it makes sense to unlock them with the story - but locking 2014 equipment that has NOTHING TO DO with COP behind a decade old mission is moronic.

As I said elsewhere, I can even fathom an argument for the artifact behing locked by COP - but not relic since it is entirely possible to +2 + augment it without doing even 1 single COP mission.

Please stop complaining about it & either do it & get the gear you want or don't do it and don't get your armor. It's your choice to be be lazy about it or not.

[Rubicant82]

But see that brings up the point that how long is too long to be able to accomplish a certain objective in the game? Do ppl think that this goal is going to get done in a say 2hrs or even 4hrs of game play? It seems to me that there is a big disconnect between the ppl that have cleared this particular objective and ppl that are looking to clear it for the first time. Ppl who cleared it pre adoulin see the difficulty of the task as being significantly reduced and have the ability to reflect on what it used to take to clear. On the other hand new or returning players(my guess is that the majority that see this as a huge hurdle are returning players) see it as a mountainous roadblock in their quest to get caught up as quickly as possible. Imo taking 3 days to clear something that you feel is required for your job isn't something to get all bent out of shape over. I can think of a lot of other requirements just to play certain jobs that take wayyyy longer to complete.

It is time consuming, that is all. BG wiki & FFXI wiki have full walk thoughts on the missions. Plus with there being home points all over the world now that you can warp to and the ease of travel we have now the time it takes is greatly reduced. Add in that none of the areas are level capped anymore, and all the fights are super easy to a 99 with sparks gear and the only excuse to not do them is pure laziness. Esp sense you need to do up to the Diablos fight anyway for CoP Dyna access that is about 1/2 way to being done. If I am not mistaken you only have to have access to Sea to (which is when you get access to limbus) in order to start reforging, which is just after the Tenzen fight. Which most people want gear that comes from the new version of that anyway .-.
absolutely baffling.

[Janethetaru]

You have to do COP because they used a COP NPC for the armor reforging. Deal with it. Doing the missions is part of the game. In fact, it's the point of the game in the eyes of the developers, they worked very hard on that story line and for you to not play it simply because it's old is insulting. I played from 2003-2007, until my linkshell leader (who had my info because i was guild banker) got my galka banned for RMT while I was deployed. They didn't have the notarized form option then and I had changed banks twice and couldn't provide enough info to restore him, by the time they had the notarized form, he had been deleted. I came back just before abyssea launched. The first thing i did after LB's was rank 6 for dyna, zilart missions for sky, then rank 10, then COP. I'm currently doing TOAU missions.
Take a deep breath, and remember it's not all about the rat race. Slow down and enjoy the game. COP is a snap now. It was soloable at 75 when they removed the level caps a long time ago, now at lvl 99 with ilvl gear and trust npcs? give me a break. It's just walking around. Go enjoy the wonderful storylines and beautiful scenery.