So, reforging AF armor requires CoP?

[Lithera]

I still don't have a 109 or 119 armor for my smn. I do have full +2 emperyean and the fully upgraded skirmish weapon and the bayld satchel. Of course i tend not to do many things solo on my smn, but neither were you. You did things on your smn with friends and still are. Also can't get some trusts until you're near the end of CoP either. One of them many players abuse the crap out of while doing things solo. I also have, if I remember to wear the hagondes boots on my smn.

Again getting back on track it just looks like some web pages and I guess even the thing SE put out didn't state the need to complete CoP. That's why there is more than one place to look for that kind of info. Why the OP didn't do this I don't know. Heck I'm surprised the thread on here didn't pop up in a search about the requirement.

[Crevox]

I still don't have a 109 or 119 armor for my smn. I do have full +2 emperyean and the fully upgraded skirmish weapon and the bayld satchel. Of course i tend not to do many things solo on my smn, but neither were you. You did things on your smn with friends and still are.

Anything I do solo in the game, ever, I do with my SMN, which happens to be a lot of things. And no, I don't play my SMN with my friends, but that's because I know personally it sucks so I prefer to play something else that actually benefits them.

Just because you can tolerate having bad gear, or don't do anything that requires good gear, doesn't mean I can tolerate it or don't do things that require it. This seems kinda rude, but I really have no other way to explain it; your statement is odd and serves no purpose.

Because a friend who might be really bored and have free time wouldn't want to help you or if they haven't done it yet they at least someone else they can talk to in party chat. If you played XIV you seem like the type that would kick a poor new person doing praetorium because they wanted to watch their CS instead of skipping them and watching them at their inn room. Only because you couldn't be bothered to wait to start a fight while they did so. The game btw gives you enough time that you would be able to complete the instance even with someone who reads slower than me (I read fairly slow), on a PS3 with a lot of lag and a pretty bad group.

Now you're turning this into a XIV argument? :\ No, I wouldn't be that person, because yes, I played XIV as well.

I'm always talking to my friends, regardless of what I'm doing. If I'm doing something boring and I hate, and they also think it's boring and they hate it, there's no reason for me to drag them into it.

[Balloon]

If you're not constantly mentioning ffxiv or it's playerbase you're not doing these forums correctly, Crevox, jesus!
I don't think you sound like one of those people, you want to spare someone the tedium that is CoP. Seems a lot more considerate to me.

[Crevox]

I beg to differ. Friends making everything more fun and can help you run around. Ignoring the fact a friend can Mazurka, Bolters, or Teleport you around, and WARP! Talking with eachother and being in eachothers company makes even the dullest of events more fun... and i consider making dull things fun helpful

Plus, friends will help friends even if its dull, I do it all the time, and others for me... thats what friends are all about.

As far as not being able to find something fun? Yah, I know, subjective and such.

I talk with friends over voice chat and messenger. No reason for them to travel with me in game even if that weren't the case.

Being a Summoner, I already have Fleet Wind.

Anyways, that's all my opinion, again. I've reported the people that are directly harassing me. Don't know what it is with people on this forum and insulting people for having a different opinion on what is fun.

[Arbalest]

I talk with friends over voice chat and messenger. No reason for them to travel with me in game even if that weren't the case.

Being a Summoner, I already have Fleet Wind.

Anyways, that's all my opinion, again. I've reported the people that are directly harassing me. Don't know what it is with people on this forum and insulting people for having a different opinion on what is fun.

If you don't want to put in some effort and finish content, while experiencing a pretty damn-good story and getting some cool stuff towards the end, why would you need REM's chapters? Why would you need reforging?

The game asking you to exert a little effort in the name of progression isn't summoning the apocalypse to planet earth - it's doing content within the game, for the sake of rewards. It's playing the game. No-brainer, right?

There's plenty of Delve gear, and Adoulin stuff you can get if you don't feel like putting forth the effort in order to reforge your old AF.

[Aeron]

Every single time games take this casual approach it ruins the soul of the game. Casualness is a cancer. It ruins drive and goals. Effort is very important. What right does a person who just started the freaking game to be able to do end game right away or have end game quality gear? The fact that the content in question can be soloed should more then make up for the fact that you have to do it in order to progress because at that point there is no one holding you back but yourself.

[Zarchery]

I think that casualness is important...to a degree. This game would be unsustainable if it were as tough as it was in 2006. But you gotta put in SOME effort. If you make things too easy, maybe you'll attract some new players, but they're either 1) going to blast through everything way too quickly and get bored or 2) give up the second they hit the slightest road bump. Such as, say, doing a series of quests that anyone can solo with no effort.

[detlef]

To be fair, the poster is not against putting effort in; he agrees that it's just a combination of running around and doing easy fights. Rather, he is against mindless busywork, traversing about for cutscenes and very unchallenging fights. I still disagree with him to an extent, but I also feel like his argument is being twisted and exaggerated.

[Arbalest]

To be fair, the poster is not against putting effort in; he agrees that it's just a combination of running around and doing easy fights. Rather, he is against mindless busywork, traversing about for cutscenes and very unchallenging fights. I still disagree with him to an extent, but I also feel like his argument is being twisted and exaggerated.

The whole game is running around doing mindless busywork; that's literally the definition of every MMO ever made.

[Olor]

The whole game is running around doing mindless busywork; that's literally the definition of every MMO ever made.

Most MMOs don't require you do do level 30 content to get level 99 rewards. It's generally understood that if you want to keep new players - you have to give them the ability to catch up somewhat reasonably. That doesn't usually mean forcing them to ancient, outdated, content.