I'm almost never happy, but that's beside the point. In all honesty part of what you just did is why I said this is childish.

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Only if Mrkillface stop downplaying my motivation into something else and think so high of his own motivation!
More or less finger pointing, saying "he did it first!", and attempting to justify poorly constructed replies by claiming their replies are what led to the degradation of your own. Not trying to come off like a pretentious prick but if you want to have a real debate the best way isn't to set the bar only as high as the person you're debating sets it for you. If you take it seriously and they do such things then anyone coming in such as myself can easily tell who's acting like a child in the situation. If you see someone acting like a child and as a result allow that mindset to consume your own then you've only allowed the debate to degrade into a childish argument and killed any chance you had to maintain a more serious position, especially to those looking in on it from the outside.

This is why I'm not pointing fingers, I quite honestly don't care who began to misinterpreted the other's argument, it's of no importance. You both allowed what could have been a decent debate about something in the game become a semantical argument over stupid BS, such as when an example of Karate is made and in return, ignoring the point of the comment, it's pointed out that Karate doesn't involve swords. People on these forums and how they debate things annoys the hell out of me quite frankly, I mean hell, we have another thread which over the last week had become an argument about the word vanilla. Really, we have a forum for a game, and we're arguing about the meaning of the word vanilla. Why is it so hard to just take an argument at face value and reply to it, and if your argument is misunderstood then attempt to correct the misunderstanding by better asserting your point? I've argued with people on here for a few years now and learnt quite a bit in doing so, but looking at it now it feels kinda pathetic being part of a community that has such a hard time entertaining a thought for more than 10 posts without someone derailing it into something completely meaningless and stupid or turning it into a battle of who can better dodge points and misinterpreted arguments made against them...

I you're right though. I'm not happy, I'm disappointed in the community I've become a part of over the last few years.

Also this entire thread has no purpose to begin with. If SE doesn't reply at all then ppl complained, if SE reply with "Currently have no plans to....." ppl still complain. It's complaining about something not even worth complaining, nor talking about an in game issue.
There's no victory in telling a community no constantly or ignoring them. Neither one will ever lead to happy people. Both of those things are what we've gotten. In the past it was ignoring every thread practically with only 1/10 possibly getting a reply, most of which were either an answer of "no" or "not at the moment". You'd be hard pressed to find someone who is happy with either of these results. While I'm not going to say all suggestions are equal or most suggestions should be implemented, surely more than 5% of suggestions are worth at least considering... When our response is almost always nearly identical to our last and they all look like they follow some sort of copy paste formula that could be filled out by simply reading the title of the thread, a few lines of the OP, and then hitting "Post Reply" when finished, it's no wonder people aren't happy about it.

While this thread didn't have much of anywhere to go in terms of an actual topic, it did have a point to make, and I think it did it well. Continuing to post here even off topic keeps that thought in mind as the name of the thread alone is enough to refresh in our minds just how often SE has told us this same thing, and continues to tell us it again every few days. So, derailing this topic isn't really a bad thing to me, had no where to go and we're keeping the thread and it's idea relevant, great thing to do when this argument would happen anyways in another thread in less than a week anyways but would serve less purpose at that point. So, while I disagree it has no purpose, I honestly don't mind a meaningful derail of it since it seems more beneficial than detrimental. My issue is only when the argument becomes so poor it's not only painful to watch/read but also getting no where at all.