Quote Originally Posted by Afania View Post
Except fun is subjective, so your argument is invalid cuz it's your opinion about what's fun for you.

So yes, change the requirement isn't fun for me, nor anyone not having the same POV as you.

Personally, I don't find "doing the content" in FFXI fun at all. No matter what you do, delve2, einherjar, higher lv BC, all you ever do is engage TP WS repeat. There aren't much variation toward how you control your character.

Further more, there are no real difficulty exist in this game.....I don't have an issue playing my character and let it function properly, but whether you can clear the content or not completely depend on who you play with.......so far I've yet to experience any SoA content that's very, very hard with right pt setup/ppl.

IMO, fun in FFXI came from spending a long time work toward a goal and finally finish the goal. I don't have fun doing easy content for 3hr, spam TP and WS repeatly for so-so reward. I have more fun doing easy content for months and years, spam TP and WS repeatly for the best weapon in this game. It doesn't matter if I'm fighting Ein mobs or Yorcia NM, all I ever do is engage click TP macro click WS macro, I see no difference in them.

IMO fun doesn't just came from the reward, but also the time and effort you've spent on that reward, they came together. If SE deliver 20 mythics and 2 ergon to my inbox, I sure wouldn't feel as happy as building one myself.

I have fun spending months and years toward a goal and get them, and I believe it's human nature to feel that way in game or irl.

If your opinion toward fun is "gimme stuff and that's fun" then I have nothing to say, it's your opinion toward fun but not mine, and I wouldn't change my opinion toward fun as well.

That being said, at least I've respected your definition of fun. It seems that all you ever do in this forum is downplay anyone's opinion that's different from yours by labeling them into something else and make your subjective opinion legit, in reality it's not.
I'm sure that you realize by now that I am in no way asking for SE to just give me stuff. The fact that you keep bringing up that argument is getting a little old. As for me thinking that my opinion is better than yours, well.. That's like just your opinion man...

You basically just broke the whole game down into complete meaninglessness as far as actually playing goes. If the only form of fun or achievement that you can conceive of is waiting in line for a really long time to obtain an item, I might suggest the DMV as an endless source of enjoyment for you.