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[FrankReynolds]

After pages and pages of argument about game design fundamentals, I still don't understand why you insist that playing a video game and following video game's "game designer design a goal, player go after that goal" is equal to "selfish". There are just zero connection between them.

By your logic, Nintendo made a game called Mario, 90% of my friends/family can't beat Mario, then they can ask Nintendo to nerf the difficulty of Mario. If someone that's against the idea of Mario difficulty nerf then he/she is "selfish"?

Yes. You are that kid who refused to show his friends how to get 99 lives by simply jumping on the same turtle a hundred times because you wanted to be the only one who could beat it. Selfish.

If you think the game is too difficult/tedious w/e to a point that you can't beat or obtain and you'd rather not do, just play another game or in FFXI's case, aim for another goal. Why are you asking the game difficulty to be nerfed so some ppl that enjoyed it no longer get to enjoy it?

I didn't ask for them to change the content at all. Just the amount of time that you are required to do it. You are still free to do it as much as you want. Nothing is being taken from you but foolish pride.

I think you're just as "selfish" to ask for a difficulty nerf. Only Mrkillface can change the game to what he like and still not "selfish", but I can't present my opinion about a better game because I'm "selfish"?

My selfishness doesn't exclude others from enjoying this aspect of the game. In fact it allows more people to enjoy it.

Technically, yes. Changing the amount of effort required for an item is basically changing the nature of the reward. Obtaining a delve2 weapon isn't nearly as satisfying as obtaining a RME, and this isn't my opinion only. Most players in this game has the same opinion about RME.

Most players meaning you.

Why'd SE ban RMT and fish bot? Why would you care if other player get gil/items faster than you with less work? Why would you want to work harder for less?

In MMO, creating a fair environment for every player does matter.

Who said I was upset about other players getting things faster than me? I have three characters that can happily farm mythics. There aren't many people who could get one faster even if they wanted to. That's not the point. Just because I can afford something doesn't mean it isn't overpriced.

Not sure why you suddenly want to use billion customer as an example to argue against current Mythic. By your logic if SE make Mythic obtainable in 1 day FF11 would have billion customers too.

Maybe. Like I sadi, I've yet to see anyone asking them to make mythics harder. Only people asking to make them easier. Why don't you ask them to make them take 6 years to build? Because that's too long for YOU? I'm pretty sure that whatever works for you is perfect and if it doesn't work for 90% of the other people, well that's just too bad. Am I right?

You said you have a LS full of mythic owners, then proceed to say "most ppl don't even try"? Ok

I also know a bunch of asian female basketball players. That does not mean that most basket ball players are asian women. I know a bunch of rappers. Most people are not rappers. I know a bunch of doctors. Most people are not doctors. Do you understand yet? Or should I give more examples?

You not so cleverly ignored the part where I also know a crap load of people who are not Mythic owners and cannot or have no intention of ever being so based mostly on the requirements of doing so.

Mrkillface doesn't even try*, fixed for you.

Well I already said that, so now you're just repeating stuff. On the other hand, links that you provided prove that I am part of the large majority that chooses not to so I'm not sure how you think this helps your argument. I mean all you're really saying is that even someone like myself who can do it chooses not to because it's a poorly designed content in regards to time / effort / reward.

I did ask for more content, but it's a proven fact that SE isn't going to create that much content. Also I'm not the only one that's only interested in 1~2 mythics. There are other ppl that's not interested in creating 20 mythics, and instead they're looking for some sense of accomplishment after obtaining one. By making Mythics faster to obtain there are no sense of accomplishment for them after they're done.

So it's fine because you have enough time to create one and you don't want the rest.

Since you view Mythic as a complete waste of time, I don't think you'd understand what Mythic meant to be for a lot of ppl anyways.

According to SE, they were supposed to be easier to obtain than relics... they were supposed to be fun... they were supposed to be a lot of things.

IMO, mythic as obtainable as delve2 weapon just isn't acceptable,

Oh, did you think we wre asking for them to be as easy as delve? You're posting in the wrong thread. People here are just asking for 3 day double ichor campaigns and / or buying some with sparks. No one suggested anything even remotely near delve.

and it has nothing to do with myself being selfish/wanting exclusive item or not. Even if I don't have one I'd still say the same. There are plenty of items I do not have, such as Dring. I've never ask for difficulty nerf just so that I can get it. There are plenty of stuff I choose not to get it because I think it suck, such as new skirmish weapon augment, even then I only pointed out the flaws in the design but I still didn't ask for a difficulty nerf.

So when I choose not to do it, I am lazy but when you choose not to do something...

Keep playing "you're selfish" card all you want, I'm going to counter with the same card.....you're selfish if you ask for a difficulty nerf for any item/accomplishment.

Maybe I am. Oh well. My selfish argument is still better than yours.

Btw, not sure why are you playing rl card here. I don't have a damn about how you do irl nor asking you to prove anything to me, I'm explaining the game design fundamentals to you and apparently you failed to understand repeatly.

I'm not sure why you think you are an authority on game design fundamentals, or why you think that you should be telling other people how they work. You're just another person on the internet. You have no more insight or influence on the subject than any other random person with a keyboard.