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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankReynolds View Post
    People didn't put that in the OAT weapons in shout because it was easier to just say RME. I'm sure if you had said you had one of those weapons, no one would have complained. You're just splitting hairs.



    Their close enough that the party leader is probably just gonna take whoever responded first. There's a high likelihood that they won't even ask what weapon because at this point pretty much all 119 weapons are good enough and pretty much everyone has one.

    Nope, pretty sure if Tsuru and koga send tell together most ppl with right mind would pick koga first.They won't say Koga only but they'd still make choice and pick ppl. I never say anything about ppl would shout for koga only, I only said ppl would invite koga first if they see koga /tell.

    Quote Originally Posted by FrankReynolds View Post
    They probably quit because they were burned out on the game after doing such a tedious quest.
    Nah, they said they want to quit before they start, just want to finish a mythic before quit. Stop applying your POV on other ppl lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by FrankReynolds View Post
    That whole argument boils down to "I want a weapon that no one else can." which goes against your whole argument for having stuff for everyone.
    It doesn't though, even if they make mythic obtainable for more ppl, it still doesn't benefit everyone, unlike making more content which will for sure benefit everyone.

    Not sure how you don't see this logic. If they make mythic more obtainable, I'm still gonna sit in town having nothing to do, if they make more content I can go out and do the content. The game should be build on creating more content, not making the life of old content shorter.

    I also didn't argue that the weapon shouldn't be obtainable by anyone else except me - -. I said current mythic requirement is just fine, and a lot of ppl already get it, thus it's obtainable by someone else. If I want a weapon not obtainable by anyone else I'd ask "please deliver mythic to my inbox but not other ppl's ty" instead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Afania View Post
    Nope, pretty sure if Tsuru and koga send tell together most ppl with right mind would pick koga first.They won't say Koga only but they'd still make choice and pick ppl. I never say anything about ppl would shout for koga only, I only said ppl would invite koga first if they see koga /tell.
    But people don't ask so....

    Quote Originally Posted by Afania View Post
    Nah, they said they want to quit before they start, just want to finish a mythic before quit. Stop applying your POV on other ppl lol.
    So keep the game a certain way to satisfy people who are planning on quitting. Makes perfect sense.

    Quote Originally Posted by Afania View Post
    It doesn't though, even if they make mythic obtainable for more ppl, it still doesn't benefit everyone, unlike making more content which will for sure benefit everyone.
    How does making more content benefit your friends who are only playing until they finish their mythics? Which content will for sure benefit everyone?


    Quote Originally Posted by Afania View Post
    Not sure how you don't see this logic. If they make mythic more obtainable, I'm still gonna sit in town having nothing to do, if they make more content I can go out and do the content. The game should be build on creating more content, not making the life of old content shorter.
    Why do you think they can't do both? The mythic line is already built. Changing it requires minimal effort. This isn't an either / or situation. If they can make more content, they can easily update the mythic stuff as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by Afania View Post
    I also didn't argue that the weapon shouldn't be obtainable by anyone else except me - -. I said current mythic requirement is just fine, and a lot of ppl already get it, thus it's obtainable by someone else. If I want a weapon not obtainable by anyone else I'd ask "please deliver mythic to my inbox but not other ppl's ty" instead.
    You pretty much did. You want it set at a difficulty where most people can't / won't do it so that you can feel special. That's almost the same thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankReynolds View Post
    You pretty much did. You want it set at a difficulty where most people can't / won't do it so that you can feel special. That's almost the same thing.

    Lol, if I want to feel special I'd ask the dev to give me three glowing effects, or change my character model into a mantra. NO ONE ELSE GETS THREE GLOWING EFFECT ON A MANTRA EXCEPT MEEEEE!

    It sure it's easy to play the "you want to feel special" card if I ask for goals/contents in this game with reasonable length to worth $12 a month sub fee.

    "I want content that worth 3~5 months of playing so I don't finish everything in 2 weeks and quit, can I haz more grind?"

    "You just want to feel special!"

    Lol. Sounds like a conversation between trees and brickwalls.

    Btw, do you name your character "Mrkillface" or collect all delve weapons because you want to feel special too?
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    Last edited by Afania; 08-29-2014 at 11:33 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Afania View Post
    Lol, if I want to feel special I'd ask the dev to give me three glowing effects, or change my character model into a mantra. NO ONE ELSE GETS THREE GLOWING EFFECT ON A MANTRA EXCEPT MEEEEE!

    It sure it's easy to play the "you want to feel special" card if I ask for goals/contents in this game with reasonable length to worth $12 a month sub fee.
    No one said you couldn't keep doing the quests over and over to infinity if you just love doing assault missions, einherjar and salvage, go do it. No one asked for the content to be removed or modified in the slightest. You can do the same old boring stuff as much as you like for all eternity.

    But it's not about the content. It's about the item. You want to be one of the only people around to have it. The content loses all value to you when someone else has the time to do it because you don't care about the content at all. You just want to be able to do something everyone else can't.

    Quote Originally Posted by Afania View Post
    "I want content that worth 3~5 months of playing so I don't finish everything in 2 weeks and quit, can I haz more grind?"
    Why not add some afterglow to your weapon? Is that too much time and money?

    Quote Originally Posted by Afania View Post
    "You just want to feel special!"

    Lol. Sounds like a conversation between trees and brickwalls.

    Btw, do you name your character "Mrkillface" or collect all delve weapons because you want to feel special too?
    What does that even mean? You have to name your character. WTF does that have to do with anything at all?

    And no, I collected weapons because I wanted to beat content and those weapons made it easier. They're fairly easy to get and I'm glad. I hate searching and not finding people who are geared well almost as bad as I hate not being geared appropriately myself. I love that collecting gear is easier now. I hate having to choose between an almost guaranteed loss or not inviting my friends to events.

    I had this same stupid argument when VW was the thing. Everyone complained about having the same gear as everyone else. Why do you need your pixels to be better than everyone else when you should be happy that they are better than the NM you are fighting? You should want the gear so that you can beat content. Not so that you can look like the coolest kid in port jeuno. You shouldn't be butthurt just because some other kid has the same sword or armor as you.

    I mean do you do this in real life? Did you drop out of school because the 13 year grind seemed pointless when you found out that every other kid could graduate too? or did you keep going because not being an idiot is more important than being better than the kid next door?

    Shouldn't playing well be the goal and not who can play the longest?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankReynolds View Post
    No one said you couldn't keep doing the quests over and over to infinity if you just love doing assault missions, einherjar and salvage, go do it. No one asked for the content to be removed or modified in the slightest. You can do the same old boring stuff as much as you like for all eternity.
    Are you arguing that ppl should play MMO not for item? Cuz as far as I know of, every MMO player do the content for items.

    Nobody do monstrosity because NO ITEM.

    Nobody do Eco warrior because NO ITEM.

    So why should I do assault/ein over and over if there are NO ITEM?

    Your point is getting silly. You can yell at me for wanting to be special all day long, but you can't change how MMO players think.

    Also, mythic isn't an item "everyone else can't obtain" but rather "some ppl choose not to do it". If you purposely choose not to do the mythic, you have nobody else to blame but yourself.

    If I want to own an item nobody else has, I'd stop others from making the decision to make the item, but you made the decision by yourself, and you blame me for wanting an item nobody else has? Lol.

    I didn't do anything to stop ppl go after a mythic, if someone isn't working on a mythic, he/she purposely choose not to do it.


    Quote Originally Posted by FrankReynolds View Post
    Why not add some afterglow to your weapon? Is that too much time and money?
    Sure why not, that doesn't mean they should make mythic easier though. Sounds like you want easier mythic cuz you want one, you don't want easier afterglow cuz you don't want one, am I right?

    Quote Originally Posted by FrankReynolds View Post
    What does that even mean? You have to name your character. WTF does that have to do with anything at all?
    Yeah, you have to name your character, but I'm still going to play the "you wanna be special" card cuz you don't give your character a normal name!

    I just did the same thing you did, I wanted mythic requirement stay the same, then you played "you just wanna be special" card to twist the reason into "you want something nobody else has", I can do the same.


    Quote Originally Posted by FrankReynolds View Post
    I had this same stupid argument when VW was the thing. Everyone complained about having the same gear as everyone else. Why do you need your pixels to be better than everyone else when you should be happy that they are better than the NM you are fighting? You should want the gear so that you can beat content. Not so that you can look like the coolest kid in port jeuno. You shouldn't be butthurt just because some other kid has the same sword or armor as you.
    I don't butthurt if someone else has the same sword or armor as me if they spend as much time/gil as me. I don't butthurt when I see another player owning a mythic because he/she probably spend the time on it and probably deserves it.

    I do buffhurt when I see ppl ask for faster gears, because I think you can already get gear fast enough in this game compare with other MMO, I think it's a bad direction to make it faster.

    You can keep playing "you just wanna be special" card and ignore every other points I've made, I'm gonna counter it with the same card as well!
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    Last edited by Afania; 08-30-2014 at 03:58 AM.

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    The only thing I think is that if you're going to have them be the best weapon for 119 content then they should be accessible via 119 content. Even if they end up taking longer, before, with a mythic, a lot of the content was relevant so even if you weren't working towards one you were.. kind of working towards one slowly because that content had other benefits.

    Now you sorta don't, so you have to go out of your way to do the long, long quest. That's your best option for 119 stuff, it sorta 'fixes' some jobs too. It just strikes me as weird that it's then tied to some of the older content in the game. Not really a challenge, is it, it's just.. monotony and gil.

    The name thing is really really grasping at straws. I don't know why MrKillFace is weird over Afania or Balloon or Podginator. I've seen weirder. I've seen more generic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Balloon View Post
    The only thing I think is that if you're going to have them be the best weapon for 119 content then they should be accessible via 119 content. Even if they end up taking longer, before, with a mythic, a lot of the content was relevant so even if you weren't working towards one you were.. kind of working towards one slowly because that content had other benefits.

    Now you sorta don't, so you have to go out of your way to do the long, long quest. That's your best option for 119 stuff, it sorta 'fixes' some jobs too. It just strikes me as weird that it's then tied to some of the older content in the game. Not really a challenge, is it, it's just.. monotony and gil.

    The name thing is really really grasping at straws. I don't know why MrKillFace is weird over Afania or Balloon or Podginator. I've seen weirder. I've seen more generic.
    I don't mind Mythic being accessible via 119 content, as long as the amount of time required to obtain a mythic stays the same.

    I'm against making mythic faster to obtain though, unless you enjoy even emptier servers.

    As for the name thing, I'm just messing around with his name. Cuz he kept playing "you just wanna be special" card on me, which is a cheap move.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Balloon View Post
    The only thing I think is that if you're going to have them be the best weapon for 119 content then they should be accessible via 119 content. Even if they end up taking longer, before, with a mythic, a lot of the content was relevant so even if you weren't working towards one you were.. kind of working towards one slowly because that content had other benefits.

    Now you sorta don't, so you have to go out of your way to do the long, long quest. That's your best option for 119 stuff, it sorta 'fixes' some jobs too. It just strikes me as weird that it's then tied to some of the older content in the game. Not really a challenge, is it, it's just.. monotony and gil.
    If this were the case, people would complain that the weapons were locked behind inaccessible content. Probably the same people who are complaining now. The process as it is now is incredibly friendly to anybody who wants to actually do it because you don't necessarily need to be on the cutting edge of current content.

    If people are going to argue about making Mythics easier, we should at least examine how easy they are to make already. Look, the Einherjar shout groups are out there. The Nyzul shout groups are out there. All but a handful of Assaults are soloable and not a pain in the ass. And Alex is easier than ever. The dream weapon for your favorite job is there for the taking if you go out and actually do it instead of complain. Or at least multi-task and complain while you do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Afania View Post
    Are you arguing that ppl should play MMO not for item? Cuz as far as I know of, every MMO player do the content for items.

    Nobody do monstrosity because NO ITEM.

    Nobody do Eco warrior because NO ITEM.
    That's right. nobody does those events because no item. So stop pretending that you need long content to give you something to do when really you just want an item and you want that item to take a long time to get so that other people don't have that item.

    You aren't in it for the content. You are in it for the item. You aren't fighting the noble fight to keep people interested and keep the game alive. You're fighting to keep your item exclusive.


    Quote Originally Posted by Afania View Post
    Also, mythic isn't an item "everyone else can't obtain" but rather "some ppl choose not to do it". If you purposely choose not to do the mythic, you have nobody else to blame but yourself.

    I could say the same thing about the content. It isn't like you can't continue to farm nyzul isle, salvage and einherjar for all eternity after you've built your weapon. Just because it takes less time doesn't mean you can't do it. You just choose not to do it. You have nobody to blame but yourself.


    Quote Originally Posted by Afania View Post
    Sure why not, that doesn't mean they should make mythic easier though. Sounds like you want easier mythic cuz you want one, you don't want easier afterglow cuz you don't want one, am I right?
    I don't want a mythic. It's more work than it's worth. It's like buying a gold helicopter. I could build a mythic if I wanted. Hell, I could probably buy all the alex outright right now and I'm halfway finished with the other stuff just out of coincidence. But I'd rather be doing something more fun and rewarding.

    I don't want afterglow because the quest is ridiculous and not fun in the slightest. I railed against it before they even put it in the game.

    This is a game, not a job. There is nothing wrong about wanting the achievements to be fun.


    Quote Originally Posted by Afania View Post
    Yeah, you have to name your character, but I'm still going to play the "you wanna be special" card cuz you don't give your character a normal name!
    There is no such thing as a normal name. You're seriously grasping here.
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    ^^ In response to the above post about how mythics are more trouble then they are worth. I don't know how to tell you how more wrong you could be. Speaking as someone who has a Burtgang ill tell you that the increase in job performance is in terms of lvls of magnitude. There is nothing that even comes close in terms of a wpn for pld.

    You can't have your cake and eat it to on this. You can't say oh well the requirements should be lessened and then say oh well the items aren't really worth it anyway. Really sounds like your just being lazy on the issue.
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