New Zone - The exchange

[Halldir]

I think reinstating tax is a bad idea, sometimes I'll be gearing up in adoulin and someone will check and buy something. I don't want that to be gone.

I wouldn't mind at least some ability to search where items are, ala ffxiah. Probably not very feasible, though.

Only way to make to not a AFK Lag fest is to make a dis-incentive to just doing the same. If you leave it as is. People are going to continue to AFK in useful zones like P.Jeuno because they can, they don't care and there is no reason to do different.

[YosemiteYogorockBlondelle]

This is the direction I can kinda see a few folks attempting to go with this thread into having more folks wanting to logging off knowing there items will still sell while offline even after initial log-off into closing the game for the night, week, or even whole month/months.

The idea on the black market auction house into being like the auction house with the ability to sell more items that could be sold at once compared to the lame one page of 7 items on the Ah when all our own spaces have been enhanced/increased while the auction house still hasn't done it ever in all the years of playing FFXI, well I mean if it were to be done in the right way then countless folks could feel the need to put all of there items into one place to sell and even more comfortable knowing there items will still sell even when they logged offline to do this so we have all our problems answered here in one shot and of course more room on the go to party with to boot when we are online or swapping room of all our gears we would like to swap because of resolving room issues all at the same time.

Now it will be great to hear feed back from this point but actually wouldn't mind hearing what the ffxi community forums team/ffxi dev crew would say about my idea done this way, anyone else?

Edit: By the way I till Loved hearing the idea someone on here had onto being able to sell cross servers stuff on ffxi. I wouldn't mind if that was a bonus feature into getting items sold and resolve/reach the issue of some servers having the items while others don't into selling what we my be looking for without idk a third party way to find it..

[FrankReynolds]

They could always just pick a random seldom used zone, add yell support and put a free to use hp there. Maybe rabao or Norg or something.

[Catmato]

They could always just pick a random seldom used zone, add yell support and put a free to use hp there. Maybe rabao or Norg or something.

Maybe something a little less remote. Upper Jeuno, perhaps?

[YosemiteYogorockBlondelle]

Maybe something a little less remote. Upper Jeuno, perhaps?

Just kind of a reminder that it can also change what areas are considered remote/less used depending on the server too. ;-)

Also not trying to get on you or down on you too and happy discoveries!! ;-)

[YosemiteYogorockBlondelle]

They could always just pick a random seldom used zone, add yell support and put a free to use hp there. Maybe rabao or Norg or something.

Not trying to harp on you bub but you might of missed a few posts here on some to maybe quite a few players not wanting to see it shouted, /yelled or blasted about items there selling which is up for sale and I don't know about you but i'd only want to know when i'm only searching for it and not all of the time, especially when you're possibly busy doing other stuff in the game or to some folk's if you use that method it will seem like your trying force your wares onto them into buying it but i'm definitely not saying i'm one of those types that do think that way but it's just from my in game experience from folks over the years into it.

[FrankReynolds]

Not trying to harp on you bub but you might of missed a few posts here on some to maybe quite a few players not wanting to see it shouted, /yelled or blasted about items there selling which is up for sale and I don't know about you but i'd only want to know when i'm only searching for it and not all of the time, especially when you're possibly busy doing other stuff in the game or to some folk's if you use that method it will seem like your trying force your wares onto them into buying it but i'm definitely not saying i'm one of those types that do think that way but it's just from my in game experience from folks over the years into it.

I'm not even sure what you think you are saying. If you make a zone for bazaar and don't allow /yell support, people who want to advertise wears will do 1 or 2 things.

1) Not use it

2) Shout from some other supported zone

Net gain - zero.

And they have a feature that turns off yells if you don't like them but for some reason feel like you have to read all of them.

[YosemiteYogorockBlondelle]

I'm not even sure what you think you are saying. If you make a zone for bazaar and don't allow /yell support, people who want to advertise wears will do 1 or 2 things.

1) Not use it

2) Shout from some other supported zone

Net gain - zero.

And they have a feature that turns off yells if you don't like them but for some reason feel like you have to read all of them.

Well if it's done like an auction house method you can walk right up the building structure click and see whats up onto selling/waiting to be sold without having to do the additional /yell or shout but it could be done in better methods too then a shout feature to display whats going on into being sold but we really have to work on coming up with some logical, scenario player based ideas into making this work for everyone in the game and not just a majority of them.

Yes you could turn shouting off but at the same time you could be missing out on those same shouts for the particular battlefield you wanna join since you may be or may not be one of the players that don't have~(A: an helpful ls into doing stuff, {B; Are solo in this game without an ls or even friends to help out, {c. hmm.. forgotten dang it}.
While I don't mind the bazaar yelling or shouting as much as some players do to the point they will just B-list those that do and say there to annoying which I don't entirely get why they wanna be like that but they do it and you would be permanently on it for small measure of reasons too but yet ridiculous.

Okaaay!! now i'm really getting off topic but more interested in other methods not yet implemented into the game that we all could be presenting the items for sale while not necessarily using whats all ready in the game. I know we have some heavy thinkers who wouldn't take the laid back, relaxed approach into creating something we want to see developed into the game somewhere here on the forums. oh Myself, I don't actually read all of the shouts but then there are those that do it to which I was thinking of and referring to as well

Okay, next persons post will fully be back on topic, well I hope anyways!!

[FrankReynolds]

Well if it's done like an auction house method you can walk right up the building structure click and see whats up onto selling/waiting to be sold without having to do the additional /yell or shout but it could be done in better methods too then a shout feature to display whats going on into being sold but we really have to work on coming up with some logical, scenario player based ideas into making this work for everyone in the game and not just a majority of them.

Yes you could turn shouting off but at the same time you could be missing out on those same shouts for the particular battlefield you wanna join since you may be or may not be one of the players that don't have~(A: an helpful ls into doing stuff, {B; Are solo in this game without an ls or even friends to help out, {c. hmm.. forgotten dang it}.
While I don't mind the bazaar yelling or shouting as much as some players do to the point they will just B-list those that do and say there to annoying which I don't entirely get why they wanna be like that but they do it and you would be permanently on it for small measure of reasons too but yet ridiculous.

Okaaay!! now i'm really getting off topic but more interested in other methods not yet implemented into the game that we all could be presenting the items for sale while not necessarily using whats all ready in the game. I know we have some heavy thinkers who wouldn't take the laid back, relaxed approach into creating something we want to see developed into the game somewhere here on the forums. oh Myself, I don't actually read all of the shouts but then there are those that do it to which I was thinking of and referring to as well

Okay, next persons post will fully be back on topic, well I hope anyways!!

I just don't see how ignoring the guy shouting for a relic rng for marjarmi delve is any different from ignoring the guy yelling to sell bynes in PJ. It's all just text that doesn't interest you. It's not like it's in some special color that hurts your eyes when people sell stuff. I mean one guy shouted for a PLD for Marjarmi for 3+ hours tonight. It doesn't really matter to me if he shouts for PLD or if he's selling T.whiteshells because I'm not interested in either.

If you tell that guy that he has to pay taxes or w/e to sell his items in a zone that has yell support, he's just gonna yell in that zone and then go somewhere else to sell them. People used to do it for years in jeuno. Shout and then just trade you to avoid bazaar tax when you respond.

Seriously. Make any zone you want into a /yell free bazaar zone and someone will park a mule in PJ and shout all day anyways.

[Ramzi]

Here's my issue with the current system. It forces the player to "AFK" in the game to sell unwanted items that can't be put on auction. With an auction limit of 7 and the amount of valuable and popular items that are bazaar only, this is the reality, which is part of the problem in port/lower Jeuno. It also keeps people logged in when they don't want to be. Why should I have to keep my PC running during the night in order to sell wares in a game? It's stupid, and quite frankly, it's pretty ridiculous that the devs have not done something to correct this problem sooner.

The way they categorize how items can be sold is just so freaking random and stupid that it's beyond comprehension. Here's an example. I was farming some items in Movapolos, and had some Moblin Sheepskins drop. When I got back to Jeuno, I tried to list them on the AH... nope, cant. Tried to NPC them... nope, cant. Checked what use they had... nothing other than crafting items. So I ask you SE.... WHY THE RESTRICTIONS? It makes NO SENSE AT ALL.

Just let us sell every damn thing on the auction house. Or at least, for the love of God, give us a GOOD reason why you have chosen to implement the economy in this way.