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    Player Rambus's Avatar
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    Are moogle storage slips safe?

    There is an ingame message that stats:

    "Warning! If you lose your moogle storage slip while storing a corresponding item, you will be forever unable to retrieve that item!"

    What does this mean? How do they get lost if you cannot toss them? Is it true what the alla replay was that it was an old message? They explained when the slips where first out you could toss them.

    You cannot toss the slips while storing something. What is this message warning me if the statement from alla is false?

    I know if I lose gear though game error SE does not replace them so i would like to know the risks involved or if i can start storing my harder to get gear that prob will not be replaced.

    I need space.
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    They're reading and agreeing that these are very good ideas.... to be implemented to rune fencer.

    Just like any good suggestions in the RDM thread get applied to SCH.

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    idk why they decided to do this as an item that could potentially be lost.
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    As long as you are storing items with a slip, it can't possibly be lost.
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    If you toss a slip, you lose any items attached to it. So, don't toss them. It's not a leftover message. Storage slips are unique, each with a particular set of data consisting of bits that represent each piece of armor that can be stored on them. When you store a piece of armor with a storage slip, the bit for that armor on the slip itself is switched from 0 to 1, indicating that you have that item in storage. The reverse happens when you remove an item from storage using the slip.

    If you bought a new slip and tried to use that to unstore your armor, it would say that you had no armor stored, because all of the bits on that new slip are still set to 0. Likewise, there is no way to store specific data about your armor while it's being stored; only 0, or 1. Thus, anything with an augment or a trial in progress has the trial wiped or is unable to be stored. When you trade your armor with 7/8 seals completed to the NPC, that armor is tossed. Gone. Finito. And your storage slip's bit for that armor is flipped to 1. When you try to get the armor back, it flips the bit to 0 and hands you a brand new piece of the same armor; but, without your trial progress, because the piece with your trial was tossed back when you stored it.

    In that sense, no, they are not "safe". If someone is seriously clumsy enough to toss a storage slip, then yes they will lose the armor stored on it. I just keep all of my slips in my Satchel at all times. It's rather impossible to both accidentally take them out and accidentally toss them back to back.
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    Player Rambus's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    If you toss a slip, you lose any items attached to it. So, don't toss them.
    you cannot toss them with something stored... the game does not let you.. ( said this in OP) I tried. I asked GMs i asked people I want to be 100% what that message is suppose to warn, if anything.

    the game only lets you toss slips if there is nothing stored

    so I wanted to make sure ( hoping some rep replays) in says yes we support this system to be 100% safe and you dont have to worry about losing items.

    because there is that message and you can't toss them while something stoared i wanted to know what exactly the message ment.

    I was thinking you could loose the slip if you traded it and d/ced at the right momenet to loose something
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    Spending Gil = Game balance, next question please tia
    Quote Originally Posted by Babekeke View Post
    They're reading and agreeing that these are very good ideas.... to be implemented to rune fencer.

    Just like any good suggestions in the RDM thread get applied to SCH.

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    Ah, I understand what you mean now. I did not know that you could not toss them, but it's good that they implemented that.

    And no, I doubt you would lose anything if you traded it and disconnected. You don't actually give the NPC your slip, the NPC reads the information on the slip without it ever leaving your inventory.
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    I thought they fixed it so you cannot store items with a trial started during the last update.
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    I was worried about that too. I didn't know exactly how they worked at first and someone had to walk me through it. I would I would be getting multiple slips for each armor. I was like "that's not saving space?!"

    But I have saved so much room y using them. I no longer have to mule when changing from melee to mage jobs. Porter moogles were one of the best additions in game.

    Although I am not sure about what would happen if timed out while trying store or retrieve armor with a slip. Best wait for a Dev to be 100% sure.
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    "Warning! If you lose your moogle storage slip while storing a corresponding item, you will be forever unable to retrieve that item!"
    They are safe.

    The game prevents you from throwing the slips away. as far as I know there's no way to actually lose them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neika View Post
    I thought they fixed it so you cannot store items with a trial started during the last update.
    That's why I included "or is unable to be stored". I'm assuming they'll implement a similar measure when they implement augmentation of Sky armor and such, but I thought it would be nice to explain why you can't store those things as well.
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