Login campaign..

[Pixela]

Feels like I'm playing a f2p game.

Kinda obvious this was made so that people would buy lots of alts.

[Damane]

noone in their right mind creates alts just for the login campaign, it is there to courage people to stay subed and log in. And it gives you free rewards, problem where? ¬.¬

you seem to have a hard on/focus/passion to bitch about anything in FFXI, considering all the other topics you wrote something in.

[Pixela]

noone in their right mind creates alts just for the login campaign, it is there to courage people to stay subed and log in. And it gives you free rewards, problem where? ¬.¬

I saw people logging in multiple "? alts" and swap the stuff over, over and over and over again. Yes they do it.

[Damane]

I saw people logging in multiple "? alts" and swap the stuff over, over and over and over again. Yes they do it.

I saw a rice bag drop on the ground yesterday, was just as entertaining and I cared so much about it, that i had to think all day about it! gosh that rice-bag!!

[Pixela]

I saw a rice bag drop on the ground yesterday, was just as entertaining and I cared so much about it, that i had to think all day about it! gosh that rice-bag!!

Paying real money for pop sets.

The funny part about people like you is that if it was items you cared about that people could buy in a cash shop you would wet yourself screaming about p2w.

[detlef]

Paying real money for pop sets.

The funny part about people like you is that if it was items you cared about that people could buy in a cash shop you would wet yourself screaming about p2w.

They gave away Savory Shanks a couple of login campaigns ago. I'm pretty sure the world ended and the servers shut down.

[Zarchery]

If they were trying to run these login campaigns to get extra money from alternate characters, it'd be terribly ineffective. Each extra character is only $1.00, and the rewards aren't particularly enticing. I have 4 mules which predate the login campaigns and which I for some reason haven't cancelled yet. Most of the time I find myself with 4600 points at the end of the campaign and going "ok so now what do I do with them?"

If they wanted to entice people to get extra characters for more points, they'd make the rewards more consistent (not changing every month) and better. They'd probably also let you mail the pop items they keep giving away, or the XP ring.

See now I play an actual Freemium game, Simpsons Tapped Out, and their model actually makes the things you buy with the real world money worth it. You can barely get anywhere without ponying up cash for donuts.

[Edyth]

If they were trying to run these login campaigns to get extra money from alternate characters, it'd be terribly ineffective. Each extra character is only $1.00, and the rewards aren't particularly enticing. I have 4 mules which predate the login campaigns and which I for some reason haven't cancelled yet. Most of the time I find myself with 4600 points at the end of the campaign and going "ok so now what do I do with them?"

If they wanted to entice people to get extra characters for more points, they'd make the rewards more consistent (not changing every month) and better. They'd probably also let you mail the pop items they keep giving away, or the XP ring.

They are consistent with the frayed sacks (D) and (L), and that's why I've activated 7 additional characters for login campaigns. This saves me HOURS of Walk of Echoes / millions of gil in unlocking all Empyrean Weapon Skills permanently, and I have way more real-life money than I do free time or FFXI gil. I love that SE has given me this option instead of grinding/farming, and I'm willing to pay for all the time saved.

Edit: I also won a rank 3 Mog Bonanza prize (120 chapters of Rem's Tale) + tons of Rank 5 prizes, so my 8 characters are working out just fine. Definitely happy SE is rewarding multiple characters this way; otherwise, I wouldn't have had so many bonanza marbles.

[Vold]

I don't remember any F2P game even having a log in campaign like what FFXI has, but okay. If you want to feel F2P, play XIV. Come back here and tell us it still feels like F2P just because of a log in campaign. We've been getting freebies for a few years now in various ways. Calling it F2P though is a bit harsh when they are only trying to do everything but merge the servers again because that would only lead to more departures as people quit over congestion. I know I've said it a few times now that I feel people are done leaving the game post XIV release, but that doesn't mean they can't throw their arms up in defeat because of severe congestion just so some soloer can shout once in a blue moon for help on something that will probably still go unanswered because many are anal about their time(me included, I'm not a angel)

That's just my take on it. When I go to XIV it's just so mind numbingly easy and simple and my hand is held 110% and just has no challenge whatsoever that resorts to insane fast paced battles that rely on memorizing patterns. I have a more interesting and satisfying time grinding Qaaxo and Xaddi drops off delve NMs to catch my characters up to at least basic 119 gear than I do whatever F2P style BS they come up with for XIV.

[Pixela]

Login campaign can lead someone to get upto 17 extra chars (+$17 per account x 10-20-30k players). If they do them often enough (which they do) that will really start to add up, in previous "events" they would make sure people didn't use multiple chars because "balance" now they just want money and they know players will spend money for a better chance at items they want. There was even a post not long ago with lots of people asking to d-box pop items because they were getting so many over all their alts. Heckl if people stop lusting after D-ring they will have to add something else, maybe 119 weapons!

A f2p game doesn't have to have a log-in campaign, the point was you are paying real money for an extra chance to get a wanted item (D ring). Don't say people don't care about D-ring, B-dom is never empty during these login-campaigns.

It's really simple, they saw the amount of monthly income bloated during these campaigns because people want items and see they can spend $1-$17 to have a far higher chance to get them, which is why they keep doing them so often, what are we at now...10?. For all the people that say they hate cash shops and RMT, the truth is very few people actually do. That's why they make so much money from gamers, especially in underhanded ways such as this.

If they wanted they could easily make it one per account or level 99 only, as they have in the past. This is blatant extra cash sales in a p2p title.

You say this is ok, would it be ok if they put d-ring in a little cash shop for $9.99? Would it? because that's effectively what this is, in-fact it's worse because it's pay upto $17 for a RNG chance at an item. Again, don't say people don't buy mules for this because they certainly do. You only have to sit at the npc for a short while to see it going on over and over and over.

Log-in campaigns aren't there to bring players back, they aren't there to make the game fun. They are there to pad the sub on the month they run them and it works.