Solution to "blinking"

[Hyaki]

OMG A THREAD NECROMANCER!?

[Ihnako]

I can't believe some people still think stpt/stal can solve the problem entirely.
I use stpt/stal since the first day they came, I just tell you: that's not as easy as somebody ever thought, there are still problems.
I can't trust someone who claim to be playing support role jobs but don't understand how stpt/stal won't work with F# keys, how many times you need to hit your arrow keys and how hard to *guess* the distance between you and your target without using third party application if you can't see the arrow mark on your target.

Even without 3'rd party tools and direct targeting you have to guess the distance. So I don't understand what you'r talking about.

Do not ever try to teach me how to play with macro, even since I can feel these problem, I cure MUCH MORE EFFECTIVE than some WHMs who may not think blinking is a problem.
And I do write my own code parser in my work, if you really have question on my "macro" skill.

What do you want to say? You don't like to use macros or alternative ways of targeting?
Let the DD's die but don't blame the game for your playstyle.

Blinking is a problem unless you use BlinkMeNot. If you don't admit it, you are not really playing support role jobs.
Can handle the cure job doesn't mean we should ignore the problem.

Again - It's part of your playstyle. Not mine and I don't feel that it is that bad. I can use alternative ways like the allready named one and I don't need a 3'rd party tool for that. Regardles of low men events or full alliances.

Remember cause the traffic light is red - it's up to you if you want to cross or not.

[Raksha]

Even without 3'rd party tools and direct targeting you have to guess the distance. So I don't understand what you'r talking about.

normal tagetting brings up the gold arrow on the character so you can see how far away he/she is. <stpt/stal> brings up a little blue arrow on pt/alliance sidebar that gives you no indication of where the character actually is. If for instance all of the melee run in to blitz you might not be able to see the guy you're targeting.

What do you want to say? You don't like to use macros or alternative ways of targeting?
Let the DD's die but don't blame the game for your playstyle.

I think you read that incorrectly.

Again - It's part of your playstyle. Not mine and I don't feel that it is that bad. I can use alternative ways like the allready named one and I don't need a 3'rd party tool for that. Regardles of low men events or full alliances.

Play style doesn't matter. Unless you use blinkmenot you have to use half-assed workarounds to effectively heal.
Just because There are imperfect solutions doesnt mean we should stop trying to fix the problem.

[Mirage]

Not being shown visually where the target is is probably the most annoying thing about stal/stpt. The other is that F1-F6 is much quicker, was it not for the chance of losing your target when something blinks.

[Ihnako]

As a supporter I'm not interested where my target is. That's not my job/concern.
I'm supposed to heal and support and not watch a beautifull landscape therefor it's easiere to target with the little blue arrow cause I'll stop right there where my spell should land regardless of where my target is right now (left, right, in front or in my back and that's what you can't do with the other arrow)

And I didn't read it incorrectly - to get personel - you blame the game for the fact that it didn't match your playstyle. But the game is out there for years and you'r still not adepted?

And again - there are severeal workarounds that work even better than direct targeting.

[Raksha]

As a supporter I'm not interested where my target is. That's not my job/concern.
I'm supposed to heal and support and not watch a beautifull landscape therefor it's easiere to target with the little blue arrow cause I'll stop right there where my spell should land regardless of where my target is right now (left, right, in front or in my back and that's what you can't do with the other arrow)

If my target is out of range, that is of interest to me. As a SCH who has AoE buffs/cures, I need to know where my target(s) is(/are) so I can hit everyone I need to hit. You CAN do all of those things with the gold arrow -- as long as no one blinks.

And I didn't read it incorrectly - to get personel - you blame the game for the fact that it didn't match your playstyle. But the game is out there for years and you'r still not adepted?

Well for starters you weren't responding to me, but it seems to me that you did indeed read it incorrectly. He uses macros and uses them to the best of his ability. Sure we're blaming the game for having a lametarded targetting system. but he says (as it seems to me) that he uses the workarounds and keeps everyone healthy. You accused him of letting the DDs die, which as I read it was nowhere in his post.

I shouldn't be defending another person anyway, so take it up with him.

And again - there are severeal workarounds that work even better than direct targeting.

Such as? Writing the tanks name into your macros? Making a macro for every <p1-x> in the alliance?

I'd rather use blinkmenot, saves a lot of time and headache.

[Mirage]

Hey guys, reverse ergonomics is cool!

But do you know what I think would be really fun? If the game controls were right mouse button to run left, space to run right, and escape to move forward. It's no problem, we just have to get used to it!

[Laraul]

You should never select party/alliance members with right or left. UP and DOWN only! You should be able to target them even if they aren't on the screen. You can't using LEFT or RIGHT so you use UP and DOWN.

If you are too far away... try /follow <lastst>. Remember also to use /lockon and auto targeting. You toggle the lock with the heal key/button.

[Mirage]

You can? Cool.

[Ihnako]

So all you say is - cause the game has to load the whole character while the player is exzessive gearchanging - it's the games fault that you have to use 3rd party tools (btw. they are forbidden) or have let to die someone cause you'r not willing to use a workaround?

Sorry to say this again - but it's your playstile that didn't adept to the game. You can't drive on the right side while everyone is forced to use the left side by law. Learn to deal with it but don't blame anyone else but you.