Request. Please allow trust in abbysea

[Demonjustin]

Because only FFXI 'pros' should be in Dynamis, newbies keep out!

Amirite?

No. Reading up on Dynamis is easy, understanding it at first is hard, with only one or two subpar/failing runs one should be able to understand a bit about it, and begin to learn exactly how it all works. Nothing in Dynamis as far as normal monsters go is in any way difficult, the Eminent gear alone is good enough to effortlessly curbstop them into submission. Your profit/pull from the run will heavily depend on your knowledge of the event and just how fast you're able to get through it, slower kills with weaker gil for instance will leave you with less when you come out just as much as not paying attention to current procs or exactly what you're killing. By allowing people to bring Trusts in you're only making this event even easier, right now it's too easy in many ways as the camps are often overcrowded as it is inside of Dynamis and by allowing people to kill faster and thus creating more congestion as there are even less mobs to go around when more people are killing them more quickly.

There's no amount of expertise nor inexperience that would allow nor bar someone from doing Dynamis as it stands today. The only thing preventing anyone from doing it is their lack of time, lack of willing to learn, or lack of ability to attain level 99 on a job half decent at soloing even the most basic of content. This page, specifically at the part I have it linked to, explains how the proc system works. If one is so inclined to participate in such content they should be willing to either experiment on their own inside of Dynamis with all of the risks that are included in doing so, that or they should be willing to read this and use what they learn to participate and learn the things they don't understand as they go. Most of the time I'm one of the more forgiving people when it comes to subjects involving less experienced players or in general new players, this subject is one where even I think things are better left as difficult as it is and people should simply do what need be done in order to learn and conquer the content.

[Babekeke]

Because only FFXI 'pros' should be in Dynamis, newbies keep out!

Amirite?

Anyone who's hanging around for more than 30 seconds on 1 mob to try and proc it, is no pro, lol!

[Zarchery]

you have a point, telling people to dual-box as an answer to getting things done is like telling them to get a yeast infection to save on baking costs. It's not just the 2nd fee, it's the need for a second device, @ another $several hundred at least. a declining game is NOT worth the cost of buying another console/computer-especially since newer hardware has issues running the antiquated software, especially with video driver compatibility issues-and buying a computer using 2002 tech and operating systems is almost impossible-at least in the US.

??? You don't need a second computer to run another character. That probably makes it harder actually. Windower lets you run multiple characters off one. Also, I bought a new computer just a month ago and it has no trouble at all running this game.

[Zarchery]

Because only FFXI 'pros' should be in Dynamis, newbies keep out!

Amirite?

The thing is that Trusts are totally antithetical to the point of Dynamis currency farming. Trusts speed up kills, but if you're farming currency a kill is no good if you haven't proc'd. It's not uncommon that I have to turn away and stop attacking to get a proc. If you have Trusts out, they WON'T stop attacking. Trusts all around a bad idea for currency farming.

[Pixela]

The point of allowing trust into dynamis was not to proc/farm, it was to get clears.

[Tohihroyu]

Oh lookie! more elitists bitching and crying "WEHHHH STOP GIVING SE IDEAS TO CATER MORE TO YOU GIMPS!" Look. The OP obviously missed the Abyssea event, which means ZERO atmas and with how elitists refuse to help "gimps" unless they pay or the "gimp" stoops down to their level and starts to use "mules" aka bots they can't get stuff done as easily as you. Its like you all forgot how abyssea was when it first came out, no atmas, had to farm cruor to even use the cruor buffs, shouts for boss clears and/or great atma. Remember how it was not so easy? nah you don't remember, all you remeber is "LOLGIMP FULL PINK LOLGIMP FULL PERLE LOLGIMP FULL TEAL" that after all in your logic you where never a newbie to the game you where always an elitist asshole. Funny how you cry "WEHHHH GIMPS ALWAYS WANT FREE HANDOUTS!" when YOU DEMAND the same shit because apparently according to your over inflated ego you "deserve" these items over "gimps" because you play the "real way" by using windower and/or bots. Play the game without Windower or bots and then MAYBE you can bitch and whine about how "THEY KEEP MAKING THIS GAME TOO EASY Q_Q"

Face it the game is way different then it was. My only complaint if any is that they really need to stop balancing AROUND elitists and balance against them (they are starting to kind of)

Would it kill you to help? oh wait it would cause your ego would explode as the only thing you'd get is a "Thank you" and not shiny items or gil Because if you are to help anyone but your fellow elitists you will be shamed on BG for daring to "lower yourself" ha ha ha.

Can you imagine how hard CoP would be now if they never lifted the cap? even with trusts there's no way some of the battlefields could be done solo, that now there is no static linkshells or groups for working on missions? (the only thing I don't miss about that is being demanded to spam cs's) Its like pulling teeth to get a little help if you are starting fresh these days, cause elitists cover their ears "All I heard was that this gimp demands WE help them LOL stop asking for handouts!!"

Its not like they are going to never do the abyssea event again anyway so new players or returning from long ago will get a chance in time.

More shit I see like this the more I hope they make a separate server just for elitists to play on, SE wont lose out on money (since they claim "if they really ban windower they will lose so much money!" ) and the widdle babies can fight among themselves over who has the biggest e-penis, while the "gimps" can help one another out for missions and get things done without pressure or criticism.

Edit: I only agree with no Trusts in Dynamis as it'd be a hindrance more than a help, plus once leveled enough its easy to solo and once you got an iLevel weapon you can easily solo the DC mobs...but oh no that would mean more "lol bsts" and "lol pup" showing up in dynamis oh noes!

[Lithera]

*head desk*

@ Pixela people are trying to point out why even when/if they add trust people wouldn't be able to get clears with them due to the mechanics of some of the zone bosses. You would risk the chance of loosing claim with how often you would have to disengage just so any trust that doesn't just stand there looking pretty doesn't hit something like Amphirite that will heal if you hit it while it's casting. While if you have any offensive mages they would heal it while it's not casting. The mini boss you need the KI from just to pop Amphirite acts just about the same way.

Also they're not talking about procing to farm but to proc so that you have a better chance for the atmas new people or just returning people would want. Which is one of the things the OP mentioned in their original post.

[detlef]

Oh lookie! more elitists bitching and crying "WEHHHH STOP GIVING SE IDEAS TO CATER MORE TO YOU GIMPS!" Look. The OP obviously missed the Abyssea event, which means ZERO atmas and with how elitists refuse to help "gimps" unless they pay or the "gimp" stoops down to their level and starts to use "mules" aka bots they can't get stuff done as easily as you. Its like you all forgot how abyssea was when it first came out, no atmas, had to farm cruor to even use the cruor buffs, shouts for boss clears and/or great atma. Remember how it was not so easy? nah you don't remember, all you remeber is "LOLGIMP FULL PINK LOLGIMP FULL PERLE LOLGIMP FULL TEAL" that after all in your logic you where never a newbie to the game you where always an elitist asshole. Funny how you cry "WEHHHH GIMPS ALWAYS WANT FREE HANDOUTS!" when YOU DEMAND the same shit because apparently according to your over inflated ego you "deserve" these items over "gimps" because you play the "real way" by using windower and/or bots. Play the game without Windower or bots and then MAYBE you can bitch and whine about how "THEY KEEP MAKING THIS GAME TOO EASY Q_Q"

Face it the game is way different then it was. My only complaint if any is that they really need to stop balancing AROUND elitists and balance against them (they are starting to kind of)

Would it kill you to help? oh wait it would cause your ego would explode as the only thing you'd get is a "Thank you" and not shiny items or gil Because if you are to help anyone but your fellow elitists you will be shamed on BG for daring to "lower yourself" ha ha ha.

Can you imagine how hard CoP would be now if they never lifted the cap? even with trusts there's no way some of the battlefields could be done solo, that now there is no static linkshells or groups for working on missions? (the only thing I don't miss about that is being demanded to spam cs's) Its like pulling teeth to get a little help if you are starting fresh these days, cause elitists cover their ears "All I heard was that this gimp demands WE help them LOL stop asking for handouts!!"

Its not like they are going to never do the abyssea event again anyway so new players or returning from long ago will get a chance in time.

More shit I see like this the more I hope they make a separate server just for elitists to play on, SE wont lose out on money (since they claim "if they really ban windower they will lose so much money!" ) and the widdle babies can fight among themselves over who has the biggest e-penis, while the "gimps" can help one another out for missions and get things done without pressure or criticism.

Edit: I only agree with no Trusts in Dynamis as it'd be a hindrance more than a help, plus once leveled enough its easy to solo and once you got an iLevel weapon you can easily solo the DC mobs...but oh no that would mean more "lol bsts" and "lol pup" showing up in dynamis oh noes!

Wait, 6 paragraphs of irrelevant ranting and then an edit to say you agree with the topic? You're a strange bird.

Edit: I got mixed up I guess Dynamis trust was a different topic. I stand by the assertion that you're a bit off.

[Zeargi]

Oh lookie! more elitists bitching and crying "WEHHHH STOP GIVING SE IDEAS TO CATER MORE TO YOU GIMPS!" Look. The OP obviously missed the Abyssea event, which means ZERO atmas and with how elitists refuse to help "gimps" unless they pay or the "gimp" stoops down to their level and starts to use "mules" aka bots they can't get stuff done as easily as you. Its like you all forgot how abyssea was when it first came out, no atmas, had to farm cruor to even use the cruor buffs, shouts for boss clears and/or great atma. Remember how it was not so easy? nah you don't remember, all you remeber is "LOLGIMP FULL PINK LOLGIMP FULL PERLE LOLGIMP FULL TEAL" that after all in your logic you where never a newbie to the game you where always an elitist asshole. Funny how you cry "WEHHHH GIMPS ALWAYS WANT FREE HANDOUTS!" when YOU DEMAND the same shit because apparently according to your over inflated ego you "deserve" these items over "gimps" because you play the "real way" by using windower and/or bots. Play the game without Windower or bots and then MAYBE you can bitch and whine about how "THEY KEEP MAKING THIS GAME TOO EASY Q_Q"

I want to point out, I offer to help those that need it. This is also nothing to do with Elitist, both those content revolve around knowing the abilities that can proc a mob and when to use them (Which trusts can't do, because they're dumb :3) Atmas can't be gained without Proc. Red, Seal drop rates Skyrocket with Yellow, and some items require Blue. If a player that doesn't have any atmas
Completes: Rank 10 Windy-Sandy-Bastok, Wings of the Goddess, Wings of the Goddess Questline Windy-Sandy-Bastok, Rise of the Zilarts, Chains of Promathia, Treasures of Aht Urhgan, A Crystalline Prophecy, A Moogle Kupo d'Etat, A Shantotto Ascension;
Defeats: King Behemoth/Behemoth, Kirin, Absolute Virtue, Pandemonium Warden, Fafnir/Ouryu/Tiamat/Nidhogg/Vrtra/Jormungand, Adamantoise/Aspidochelone, Proto-Omega, Proto-Ultima, Hydra/Khimaira/Cerberus;
Clears: Dynamis-Tavnazia, Dynamis - Xarcabard, All 4 Salvage Areas, Odin's Chamber, Maat's Shatter Stars (All 15 jobs, Maat's Cap), Fiat Flux, The Rivalry

Each one of these will net an atma, some of which are really good if you don't have any. If someone wants clears on Sylph, I'll be free to help this Friday and some of Saturday.

[Stompa]

If I heard a /shout saying "please help me obtain KI and kill Zone Boss for my clears" I would totally help you do it, because it doesn't take long and it is fun. I imagine most people would help you too, as it doesn't take very long and its fun smashing up the ZBs and Cats that used to torture the #### out of us in the 2010 cap 80-95 era. I wouldn't even blink, I'd be right on that /shout in a flash. If you shouted you might even get some other people who actually need the wins. Most real FFXI players I know wouldn't let you stand around town /shouting for help on an easy ZB for very long, they would totally help you out.

Edit: And Zeargi is totally correct, some of the free atmas from content-clearing are very useful, especially Future Fabulous from clearing WOTG, the magic defence bonus is a game-changer even today. The Stronghold and Mounted Champion atmas which (I think) were free with the Aby Campaign event, are also extremely powerful even for a fully geared 119 person.