Request. Please allow trust in abbysea

[Zeargi]

I think the real question is
WHAT DOES IT MATTER TO YOU IF PEOPLE USE TRUST IN ABBYSEA?
IN WHAT WAY DOES IT AFFECT YOU.
There i think you can understand now.

CAN YOU ANSWER THE QUESTIONS ABOVE?

I've already answered, it takes time to program that, and that means less time making things that could impact this or that job.

So, How does it HELP you to have Trusts in Abyssea?

[Damane]

I've already answered, it takes time to program that, and that means less time making things that could impact this or that job.

So, How does it HELP you to have Trusts in Abyssea?

^ this! It takes away Dev-Time that could be used to push out new content or do other Quality of Life Adjustments

[Demonjustin]

Everyone, just stop. You're acting like a bunch of fools. SE has been updating Trusts over the last few months expanding the areas they can go to. Right now their main priority seems to be on BCNMs related to story progression and current-game events such as the SKCNMs people do for Rem's Chapters. It's stupid to argue about if they should or shouldn't allow them in Abyssea as it's likely going to be done eventually, for now it's not going to be due to them working on other things involving Trusts, and you know what? I'm happy it's not coming till later. Personally I see no reason to rush them on the subject because the chances are they're just going to implement them in the zone without any Atma or Cruor buffs with the best case scenario being that they're implemented like pets and adopt your Atma for their own.

In my opinion, rather than asking for Trust in Abyssea, which I think will happen eventually anyways, I think you should ask them to provide the Abyssea bonus' at all times rather than only during certain events. The one time bonus to get extra stones, free Atma, and a free Lunar Abyssite, would probably do more in the long run for players starting Abyssea than Trusts would in my opinion anyways.

[Afania]

I think the real question is
WHAT DOES IT MATTER TO YOU IF PEOPLE USE TRUST IN ABBYSEA?
IN WHAT WAY DOES IT AFFECT YOU.
There i think you can understand now.

You answered your own question in bold.

i used to help a lot of people on the old days, but FFXI is not what it used to be.
So what if i wnat to use trust instead of ask for help everyday i want to do something in abbysea?

You no longer need your friend/LS's help, you don't want them to help, in return when they need help you'd no longer feel obligated to help. That destroyed the tie between community in this game. You're incredibly short sighted if you can't see this. You really think you enter abyssea and solo doesn't affect other people? Yes it does. Anytime you refuse to ask for help/help others in this game, it's affecting the community as a whole.

FFXI is not what it used to be, and contents become more and more solo/lowman friendly is one major reason, IMO.

Everyone, just stop. You're acting like a bunch of fools. SE has been updating Trusts over the last few months expanding the areas they can go to. Right now their main priority seems to be on BCNMs related to story progression and current-game events such as the SKCNMs people do for Rem's Chapters. It's stupid to argue about if they should or shouldn't allow them in Abyssea as it's likely going to be done eventually

Oh, I believe SE will eventually make trust usable in Abyssea too. I just don't like Lordkyron's attitude and opinion. He/she doesn't want to ask for help, and just labelled other ppl's opinion about trust into "you must want to feel special".

[Pixela]

I actually forgot the main thing when posting on this forum, I fell into the mindset that arguing the point here made any difference. It doesn't, the devs will never read this forum, they only read the JP forum.

Make the thread, the community team will either pass it on or they won't. Trying to win the argument against people that don't want new players to be able to do content or keeping an mmo an mmo (when there are no players doing it) will change nothing.

If you like the argument go at it, it won't make any difference to the dev team since they can't read/speak english and neither side will convince the other...ever. Having said that, most of the people that are against this were also against the other trust additions, they added them anyway so it's obvious which way the dev team is going.

[Zarchery]

Dynamis is content nobody does? Then where is all that Dynamis currency coming from? Why do I always have to search the zone before entering to make sure it's not so crowded that there are camps?

I don't actually mind Trusts in Abyssea. Keeping a WHM out when I farm Demon/Avatar blood for alchemy would probably keep my THF alive longer.

[Lithera]

Holy crap why can't you two see that most on this thread are not against trusts being used in Abyssea, but that until their AI's are fixed they won't help you get many of the atmas people would be wanting the most. Also please don't assume how much English the devs May or may not know.

[Zeargi]

I actually forgot the main thing when posting on this forum, I fell into the mindset that arguing the point here made any difference. It doesn't, the devs will never read this forum, they only read the JP forum.

Make the thread, the community team will either pass it on or they won't. Trying to win the argument against people that don't want new players to be able to do content or keeping an mmo an mmo (when there are no players doing it) will change nothing.

If you like the argument go at it, it won't make any difference to the dev team since they can't read/speak english and neither side will convince the other...ever. Having said that, most of the people that are against this were also against the other trust additions, they added them anyway so it's obvious which way the dev team is going.

What is it that you want to do, I will personally help you today after work. I'll be home at 5:00ish PM EST.

[Lordkyron]

You answered your own question in bold.





You no longer need your friend/LS's help, you don't want them to help, in return when they need help you'd no longer feel obligated to help. That destroyed the tie between community in this game. You're incredibly short sighted if you can't see this. You really think you enter abyssea and solo doesn't affect other people? Yes it does. Anytime you refuse to ask for help/help others in this game, it's affecting the community as a whole.

FFXI is not what it used to be, and contents become more and more solo/lowman friendly is one major reason, IMO.






Oh, I believe SE will eventually make trust usable in Abyssea too. I just don't like Lordkyron's attitude and opinion. He/she doesn't want to ask for help, and just labelled other ppl's opinion about trust into "you must want to feel special".

OMG how entitled can you be? You don't like my attitude because i don't want to ask for help in a game? REALY?

You must have feel so special when someone asks you for help . Entitled much.
What would happen if square allow trust in abbysea? Will you quit because of that?

FFXI is NOT te mmorpg it once was. The game is diying. TRUSTS are a breath of fresh air. AT LEAST TO ME.
And if my HAPPY gaming and not asking for help makes you find my attitude wrong. THAT is your problem. NOT MINE

[Pixela]

You no longer need your friend/LS's help, you don't want them to help, in return when they need help you'd no longer feel obligated to help. That destroyed the tie between community in this game. You're incredibly short sighted if you can't see this. You really think you enter abyssea and solo doesn't affect other people? Yes it does. Anytime you refuse to ask for help/help others in this game, it's affecting the community as a whole.

FFXI is not what it used to be, and contents become more and more solo/lowman friendly is one major reason, IMO.

Players that can't progress will just quit, the community just is not there anymore. In the past everyone helped everyone else because nobody was above needing help, that is no longer the case. FFXI is not what it was for 2 reasons, decimated dev team and budget (which was never fixed) due to the mass amount of talent drain and money going into XIV development before it was released and massive player loss due to that and a similar FF based MMO title being released. It's the same idiotic idea as Blizzard making WoW 2, they would destroy WoW in the process while taking a gamble on the new title, thankfully they aren't as dense as Square.

Square gambled that we would play both games and they would double their money, in the most part they were wrong.

Not allowing trusts into Aby or Dyna won't make the game better for you, the players that are self sufficent won't group up with others and the players that can't do these things will simply quit. You can't shoehorn a community into a game that no longer has one, nor can you bank on those players sticking with the game anymore.

FFXI servers are deserted, Square refuse to do incredibly needed server merges because they fear the negative PR and refusing to accept that their original idea for running XI and XIV with their players paying for both titles didn't work. Players aren't playing both games, they cannibalized their own customers from paying them a monthly sub for one game and got them to pay a monthly sub on another.

@Zeargi

Thanks but this wasn't about me asking for help personally, it was about a discussion of the state of the game and why things are needed.