Fish Usefulness

[Dragoy]

That's cool and all but...

is nothing is being done to improve the fish that are currently worthless?

Ha! That's not how it works! Instead, they make the old less wanted (via fishing at least).

I'm of course referring to matsya, and how they can be obtained via the Mog Gardens now. It's cool, in that pretty much anyone can find one, and well, it's not that there have been many around for people to buy, for which the reason is of course the effort it takes to reel in even one of them.

Here's a bit something (manually kept notes, which are probably not absolutely 100% error-free) from between

07/07/1198 Watersday 10:22
Waxing Gibbous (62%)
28 Apr., 2014 0:10:30

and

05/07/1207 Firesday 10:55
Waning Crescent (29%)
04 Sep., 2014 12:40:13

with a skill level of 101 (start) to 109 (end), with all the equipment on top including Mega Moglification towards the end of the way (which only seemed to make things worse, hahahadgfh...):

Total Casts 3592

Matsya 166
Snapsya 275
Jellyfish 373
Monster 290
Dividedbyzarrro 4
Failfish 5
Nothing 1050
Arrowwood log 352
Rusty 1082
bucket 264
leggings 522
subligar 296

That's about 740 drill calamaries and/or dwarf pugils, from which actually only 426 I fished for myself between

3/1/1193 Watersday 10:41
Waning Gibbous (62%)
7 Feb., 2014 14:32:52

and

11/09/1206 Watersday 6:10
Waxing Gibbous (71%)
23 Aug., 2014 18:14:21

which was about 1673 cave cherax (that is, 25% of them had bait). The rest, if my notes are to be believed, came from log-in campaigns (in which by the by I think their price is still too high!). I did not keep a record on the exact amount of bait I got from these campaigns, unfortunately, but as long as my matsya and cave cherax notes are not wildly off, the numbers should be quite accurate.

That's almost half a year for two (2) shaper's shawls and indeed only 166 matsya.

Obviously I did not fish every day, all day, but when I did, it would be pretty much the only thing I would/could do that day in Vana'diel.

What I'm saying is, that it's cool that more people have a chance for the shawl, but actually obtaining the fish for money making was made even less appealing than what it was (which it was not at all to begin with). The amount of lost bait is simply too high, and to get more is very time consuming, so one is not likely to sell them to people (what made me do this and actually level up fishing from 45 to 109 was to get the shawl to my friend; I've never sold a single matsya).

I guess what I'm also trying to say is, I would hope they made them more... fishable... especially if they insist on dropping their worth over at the auction house. Of course, if they changed the bait, or via other means made them more useful, botters would flock over at them and reduce the price, be it NPC or AH, like they always do. :[

(I never did fish hakuryu, so I don't care much for that change, but it's still sad that lowering the NPC vendor price is all they will do to battle against that plague... rant rant ranty rant.)

To counter your claims, these fish existed before WoTG

Some of those you listed have been used for guild points and/or the fish ranking (from which the latter can be argued to go towards skillupses, but still!).