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  1. #11
    Player Puck's Avatar
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    Wow, I'm quite pleasantly surprised I got a response to that. Thanks very much. I'll be sure to post in the localization section next time I see a weird mistake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demonjustin View Post
    While I appreciate what you're saying I don't think you understood the exact nature of my complaint. I know more with CSs are to come, but I'm sure those with Cyphers already implemented aren't among them. My problem is that NPCs like Aldo, Lion, Naja, or Lehko, NPCs that are important to the story of entire expansions and subsets of quests that are being given to us in paper scrolls rather than through CSs like the others. It feels as though these NPCs are being treated unfairly by compare to others like Prishe or Ulmia who are given such things.
    I agree. I'm a big Star Sibyl fan, so it's a little disappointing we'll get her through cipher after a lot of the stuff we've been through together. Ciphers are perfectly fine for characters like Ferrous Coffin or Valairenal, as we've had no adventures with them and have no bonds to speak of. But for those we actually do form bonds with over the course of the story, ciphers cheapen the experience and deprive us of a cutscene that confirms those bonds.
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    Last edited by Puck; 07-08-2014 at 04:02 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demonjustin View Post
    While I appreciate what you're saying I don't think you understood the exact nature of my complaint. I know more with CSs are to come, but I'm sure those with Cyphers already implemented aren't among them. My problem is that NPCs like Aldo, Lion, Naja, or Lehko, NPCs that are important to the story of entire expansions and subsets of quests that are being given to us in paper scrolls rather than through CSs like the others. It feels as though these NPCs are being treated unfairly by compare to others like Prishe or Ulmia who are given such things.
    I don't work for SE, so this is PURE speculation on my part.

    I think some Cyphers are chosen based on avoiding potential lock-outs. Look at the people who had trouble getting Ajido due to never finishing the Windy mission line, when oddly, someone who only got the SL fight could unlock him. Or how Prishe and Ulmia became unavailable to people who had flagged parts of the Apocalypse Nigh questline. Let's look at Naja. She's a character a lot of people wanted (to kill, err, did I say that out loud?) It is sad she's a Cypher, but on the other hand, she is involved in flagging so many missions and quests, not to mention all the Promotions for Assault rank. Players would be probably be locked out of acquiring her more often than not.

    Now, I would like an explanation as to why male Serpent Generals get quests and females get Cyphers...
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    I understand what you mean but I just honestly don't think it'd be that hard to do most of them. Lion would need to be after Apoc Nigh but Naja could be after the mission in ToAU that you fight along side her. Aldo could simply be from after Celestial Nexus, Lehko could've just been after A Nation on the Brink, I could list more but in all honesty I have an idea of where each NPC could've seen enough in the character to be worth a Trust. That said, it's all for naught, even though I've thought of all of these events where they could've made it so we could obtain them via CSs it's already not going to happen. I just don't like that one of my favorite aspects of one of my favorite systems was done so poorly for some of the game's main story NPCs.
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  4. #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unelonborro View Post
    In way of explanation (not as an excuse), though the workload of the localization team has increased greatly since the implementation of monthly updates, our staff remains the same. Everyone who works on FFXI--programmers, artists, sound designers, planners, marketing, the web team, QA...everyone--has pulled double-time over the past year to bring you fresh content. As the localization team, we must ultimately prioritize in-game text to preserve the fidelity of the Vana'diel experience for all our English-speaking players, whether they are forumgoers or not.
    You guys have been keeping it together. Love the frequent updates, it's clear you're all working hard. Cheers.
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    I'd love to see trusts of the npcs you'd meet if you'd obtained a certain relic weapon. Even if the CS only appeared when you had that weapon on you/in inventory, and just got their cipher if you didn't.
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    Sry, noob here. Just got Star Sibyl. Seems like a Geo cuz i get a buff (magic att. boost) when i bring her out but.. She just stands there, lol. Doesn't engage in any fight and just does subtle emotes. Am i missing something or is she just a buff?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jybwee View Post
    Sry, noob here. Just got Star Sibyl. Seems like a Geo cuz i get a buff (magic att. boost) when i bring her out but.. She just stands there, lol. Doesn't engage in any fight and just does subtle emotes. Am i missing something or is she just a buff?
    Yep, she only gives you the magic buffs and doesn't fight. Other Trust like her are Sakura and Moogle.
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