EXP/Gil please

[Kaych]

If you are gonna quote something, plz quote the whole sentence and dont take things out of context.

"Some fights do have rewards for doing them again. The ACP/MKD/ASA ones do, wanna say a lot of the COP/ZM ones do too. Been a while since I had to assist with those lines."

When I read this, it says:
"Some fights gives rewards. The addons do and the CoP/ZM ones do too. I havent assisted on these missions in a while"....

Either I am reading it wrong or you are expressing urself wrong. Too me you clearly say redoing CoP/ZM missions give rewards here >_>

And "Guess what", I like team games. And "Guess what" you right. This IS a MMORPG. You sure got your facts right.

"Was getting a Sahagin key and farming for hours a pain in the butt, even they I didn't need anything from there? yes. Did I get something in reward for my time--yes"

So what you are saying is that you helped him, even tho you didnt need anything there... and you got reward for helping him.. wich was gil, skill ups and a BRD 90 to help you later on... You are contridicting yourself. You did need skill ups and you did need gil. I would have helped him also for 2/3 reasons BECAUSE I needed skill ups and gil.


You talk about helping others have gotten you friends in game that has expanded to RL:

"So in the end, I guess you could say I have not only benefited in game, but have benefited in my personal life as well."

I have friends, family, a job and love my life. Dont need anything else. I dont play a game to find friends. But if that happends along the way, All right! And just so you know, I have people I talked to alot in the game on /friendlist. They know where I stand and we get along great. You can become friends in different ways ya know^_-

"And, it all started becuase a complete stranger that picked me up from a search for a WHM to do a Qufim party offered to help me get my Kazahm pass."

Well, I switched nation and started leveling BLU. I hooked up with a "?" AKA n00b and asked if he wanted to join me when we do Sandy missions and EXP with me on BLU. We missioned together and exped 2gether. We talk alot in the game and have fun. And it all started cos we both needed the same thing...

"Guess who gets to come along on my farming sessions? A player with 90 BST/PUP/BRD.. mighty convenient for me, eh?"

If it works for you: Go for it! My experience is that people ask for help and dont help back. this isnt always the case, but many times it is, so I just avoid that drama. Call it bad luck, but after 6 years of playing, I dont really wanna go look for "good luck". So, when you say:

"If you want to be selfish and do only what you need to do, and only want to help others if there is something in it for you--then by all means MERC yourself out"

Thank you! Thats exactly how I think it should be. Do what works for you and dont beat me down for doing this my way^_-


Its a shame tho that you keep straying away from the actual topic wich is "Should we get Rewards/better Rewards (gil, exp, items, etc)for helping people with missions and quests that we have already done?"
Not talking about a reward like "meeting-new-friends" or a favor you can collect later on. I am talking about actual rewards, in game that u get when you finish a mission... like a item or stuff like that <_<

"So, in summation:never underestimate the value in helping someone else just for the sake of helping them out, you never know just where it may lead."

Agreed. Thats what I do... IRL^_-

[Kaiichi]

I think it would be nice to up rewords for re doing quests/missions and I know where ppl are comming from... How many time have you done Nysle floors 1-20? I'm going on 17? Not to mention CoP. I lost a hard load of Gilz before the level cap was lifted.

@Kaych
I DO in fact know exactly where you are comming from and understand your style of play honestly I wish I could be like that more often because I play this game for the fun of it, not to be draged into a circle of drama because I didnt leave my EXP PT to open some stuped gate when I stood there for over 3 hours waiting to get a pice of RDM AF.

@Everone Else
I'll help no prob. But if your gonna turn my game into work and not alow me to enjoy the game, why am I gonna hold a Job to work after work is over?

[Meyi]

At least you're honest.

[Doomtrigger]

Then go play wow or some shit

[Kaych]

I think it would be nice to up rewords for re doing quests/missions and I know where ppl are comming from... How many time have you done Nysle floors 1-20? I'm going on 17? Not to mention CoP. I lost a hard load of Gilz before the level cap was lifted.

@Kaych
I DO in fact know exactly where you are comming from and understand your style of play honestly I wish I could be like that more often because I play this game for the fun of it, not to be draged into a circle of drama because I didnt leave my EXP PT to open some stuped gate when I stood there for over 3 hours waiting to get a pice of RDM AF.

Thats nice to hear that I am not completly alone on this XD And gawd, I remember those Nyzuls was a pain XD Along with Assaults o.o

[Kaych]

At least you're honest.

Honesty goes a long way

[Kaych]

Then go play wow or some shit

You sound bitter and seem like a person who dont respect others.... much like the eviroment in WoW. So, my tip to you: "Go play wow or some sh?t" You will fit right in ^_-

[Arlan]

Call me selfish, but I dont really like helping people out, unless I get something from it

This can be a problem in LSes when people ask me to help out with missions or quests that I have already done. When I play a game I play to have fun. I dont play to help others have fun. Then it becomes a work, sort of.

So, what I would like implemented is a bonus for people whom has finished missions, quests etc and wants to help others finishing them. That "bonus" could be a great deal of EXP or Gil. Not just 500 exp, but maybe even 5 000 or 10 000 EXP depending on the difficulty of the missions/quests. Gil should also be an option, like in the Trial quests for when obtaining a Avatar.

This way, it could actually be much easyer to get people to help you with missions and also people didnt have to feel like they "work" to help other^_- They would actually benefit from it.

When Abyssea got introduced and I started EXPing there, people open chests of over 1k EXP, and the Bastion ond OPS give crazy EXP fast. I think that cos of this, it should be possible to get this kind of EXP as fast in the old areas also via missions/quest.

The first time you finish these missions/quests, you usually get a good reward. (usually>_> Nation missions, I am talking to you *cough*. Gil is nice though^_-) But when you help out, u dont really get anything.

Please SE, revamp!

After reading 4 pages of this thread, I can see where this guy is coming from.

I mostly help my friends with missions because I enjoy the storyline and Fights, because that is what I enjoy.
But problem is, Its Not enough for everyone to care for or consider it fun/enjoyable or even "Beneficial".
That is what makes it harder for most newer players to progress or get help in general.

Basically this guy hit it right on the nail.
Gamers game to have fun and to progress with their friends or without.
Wether it be a single player game or an Online MMO game.

The idea to create a BIGGER and more appropriate "Bonus", for today's current FFXI, to be raised for players who redo missions and certain quests, to benefit while helping out other newer players who actually need them done is an excellent idea to motivate the community to play with each other more in many many ways.

We pay to play our game and we want to play to enjoy our game.
This is a Team based game, so having an appropriate "Bonus" for helping newer players on certain missions that we already done only makes sense to encourage the team element of the game and the enjoyment of the game to the next level.

There are so many ways to make friends in FFXI, but making friends in ffxi is not the aspect of the game,
I have leveled up back in 2006 with 6/6 exp pt, and I promise you, I DO NOT EVEN KNOW Half of the players I Exp PT with. Hell, I have had 6 Jobs at lvl75 cap and I barely knew everyone I lvled up with... They didn't know me and I barely knew them. Only thing I knew is I wanted to exp and lvl just like anyone else back then, and that was the only way to do it.

so ya, I agree with the OP after reading everyones comments and reading his carefully.
The OP is not talking selfish out for himself, but he is talking out for all of us so we can get more for the time we put in helping others or even our own friends!

Good post. =) You got my support.

[Arlan]

All tho I have to say, The OP did seem a little mis-leading tho.
But still understandable.

[Necrose99]

I can agree , I play mage classes at Present when the cost of Phalanx has jumped from 30-50k to now about 500k-2 million Gil along with other spells , including summoner or Utsumi Ni if i ever whent the ninja route or RDM/Ninja road,

Anyhow I dont mind helping people , but it's hard to help yourself when 20k gil is typicaly all you have , when everyone above you is too busy to help and has a bank roll thats 1-900-GIL-Seller-ish , they can Crush you with the GIL Cugel of 2-5 million or so like its nothing.

of late with Abesseya it's impoved farming trading Domion notes for wepons then selling from time to time but many other spells etc that were previosly avlible at a resonable price has jumped by 10-12 fold in price.

ppl talk of crafting eassy to do once you have a few million gil just lying arround.

if I got a few 100k and Phalnx utsumi ni , anchient magics Lightining spirt dark spirt or Light spirt , then most of my magic scroll woes would be finaly done with .

or I could sink gil into crafting.

it's hard to invest 30k gill whm job or rdm job , heal party (IE cure 6 cura curaga 3 or cura 2) or lvl crafting a handful of lvls , wont see much steady gill till lvl 50 in a craft... of .... as well FFXI 's crafting sytem requires me to make tons of mules for spec lvl crafting

no FISHING 100, ALC 100 , woodworking 100, GS, SMITH, ETC all 100 all on one.

not saying the player supported econ is a bad deal but.... at times finding a crafter ofr woodworking with smithing of x or bone crafting or etc is getting tougher of late.

toss on a side order of 20 page paeprs for my classwork it's tough enough to sqeeze in a few hours or so of FFXI.


honeslty many quest also consume gils for travel or etc. adding gil's or upiing the drop rates on rare scrolls might also benifit the game by making them more Ahem affordable to us non-Gil-seller on speed-dial types whom have a modest sums of gil most the time.

upping Utsumi ni or Phalnax etc might be an option or making them Abyssea buyable with Dom notes or etc. it would be good to have non-tradable versions of Phalanx i can buy with domion notes 600k-1.2 million saved etc. thier are many rare scrolls that are trading for Hyper-inflated prices since abysssea came out compaired to historical contexts. honestly i'd like to see no-trade versions of hard to get scrolls on the Abssea npcs for sale thus can buy scribe and not get ripped off. 50k is resonable 1.2 million isnt.

If making @ 70+ RDM etc a few million gil were eassier ou need 30-50k ahh no problem newbie welcome to the game/linkshell .

wepons arrmor I tend to hode in bank stash or on mules... i may find eassier to let go of to newer players in the linkshell etc despite having jobs that may soon need them for a short time.

as I could find simply buying them npc or ah or etc then selling back once lvl's have made them out moded again.

I sold a coper ore for 8k on AH i had it up for about 300 or so just enough to cover AH fees and make enough to recover fees from other sales, I'm not terrbily greedy , by no means but upping the gil drops on goblins or etc might ease the gil pinching. 150-300 gil a mob in some parts , it would be eassier to get a few scrolls.

it'd be nice to be able to craft stuff for Ls ppl without having to wory about making gil from it or if i fail at making this goodebye 100k i'm broke for weeks.....

yeah sometimes the game has a bit of need for greed 75k spells @ lvl 30 I remember Dispel etc.

kinda hard to rake in that much cash. , i was the LS favor buddy for about 6 weeks to repay that one in favors.

Offten may spells were complealty unaffordable I had to earn them with ALOT of favors , but time to repay others and it's harder to as I lake fame from key quests and hard to lvl summoner to do them.


but I absolutely see his point many quest or jobs he[[ err ahem , my military moth is acting up...
!@#$%^& lol Dynamis etc 500k for an hour glass or etc. I'd get one for everyday of the week i've never be in dyamis yet .. but not having the "GIL Cugel " many others do kinda hard to put some runs together on woot my 50k of normal to have gil in pocket cash.