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    Player Rafien's Avatar
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    I'm the first person that will help any person out, be it level 1 quests to level 60 quests. Be it farming necklaces (220 to be exact) to joining a level 11 party because they need one person.

    I've helped 4 people in the last month with the sub-job quest, helped 3 people with the kazham keys, and so forth. Some of them are the most boring quests possible when you're higher level but I do it to help people out.

    I just wish that while I was doing these, there was a registration system where you help them you get points for it, not even exp or special weapons or anything. It would be nice to give points, call it Players Helper Tabs, and when you need help yourself, you can summon a special level 90 character that helps you out.

    I had to wait almost a month to do LB3, and been waiting about 2 weeks now to do LB4. It would be nice to have SE give thanks to the people that are willing to help.
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    Last edited by Rafien; 06-04-2011 at 03:12 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rafien View Post
    I'm the first person that will help any person out, be it level 1 quests to level 60 quests. Be it farming necklaces (220 to be exact) to joining a level 11 party because they need one person.

    I've helped 4 people in the last month with the sub-job quest, helped 3 people with the kazham keys, and so forth. Some of them are the most boring quests possible when you're higher level but I do it to help people out.

    I just wish that while I was doing these, there was a registration system where you help them you get points for it, not even exp or special weapons or anything. It would be nice to give points, call it Players Helper Tabs, and when you need help yourself, you can summon a special level 90 character that helps you out.

    I had to wait almost a month to do LB3, and been waiting about 2 weeks now to do LB4. It would be nice to have SE give thanks to the people that are willing to help.
    I think the term you are looking for is "karma", and it would be nice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glamdring View Post
    I think the term you are looking for is "karma", and it would be nice.
    Not just any karma, in game karma Points.
    You see, I can see this being beneficial as well.
    If playerA helps PlayerB and gets Karma Points for it, PlayerA can save up a bunch of these karma points and PlayerC who checks PlayerA's Karma Points can see how helpful he is to the community and others and will concider helping PlayerA when PlayerA may need some help for his own thing.

    am I right?
    But still, I prefer reward system over all since I like to obtain gil/exp or anything worth while durring helping friends out. Not everyone enjoys putting time helping others for nothing. But everyone loves to get things from helping so OP's idea is to help community help each other better for each other since everyone gets worth while rewards who participate which I am all up for that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Necrose99 View Post
    It gets you lvl'd up but , then you pay for it in time spent having to go skill wepons or as a mage , oh Mother-moggle....

    !@#$%^& SKILL points SKILL POINTS SKILL POINTS , I'd even invest gil into it for a key item .I'm stuck at lvl 70 partly due to vl sync , MAAT Pitties non esp those that lack skills capped , else you be come MAAt's newest welcome mat .

    i've had to speend alot of extra time capping out skills that otherwise lvl'ed in normal groups would have been caped or far more nearly caped than i curently have granted was out of game for 2+ years


    But I can again agree. to get to lvl 90 i need a maat win , LS ppl pushing me to win yet newbies need help , I want to help but grrr Catch-22 Quandry , @ lvl 90 RDM i could help alot more..... but they need a few lvls or ...

    geting some SKILL POINTS i could dump into my Jobs sore spots or even other jobs IE kata or great katan skill of OMG /laugh roll /puke or etc would be useful too.

    as more jobs up , more i could help.
    Skilling up is easy. For melee, you just take a weak weapon to past Castle Zvahl and fight Zvahl Fortalices, which you can do AFK. For magic, go to Aydeewa Subterrane, one of the entrances has a couple of Qiqirns right inside. Enfeeble them and cast a few spells, then run to the zone line when you run out of MP or they start hitting you too much to survive. Zone back in after healing and do it again until you cap skills.
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    Last I checked, the incentive around helping someone else was that you make a new friend in the process.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeonk View Post
    Last I checked, the incentive around helping someone else was that you make a new friend in the process.
    There are other ways to make friends than helping a random person for no reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bungiefan View Post
    Skilling up is easy. For melee, you just take a weak weapon to past Castle Zvahl and fight Zvahl Fortalices, which you can do AFK. For magic, go to Aydeewa Subterrane, one of the entrances has a couple of Qiqirns right inside. Enfeeble them and cast a few spells, then run to the zone line when you run out of MP or they start hitting you too much to survive. Zone back in after healing and do it again until you cap skills.
    Or go out to sea and cast none damage enfeebles on gold fish they never attack back if you don't do any dam.
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    Hey Kaych, weren't you the person I helped a long time ago with RR because your leader didn't know what the hell he was doing? XD I ended up telling him what proced and what didn't, threw in some outside cures, trained all the aggro out of your way and died, just so your group could get the atma. It took maybe 2 hours out of my time and I didn't get anything out of it, but I am still quite happy I did it.

    If that wasn't you, then carry on, (though the example still stands) I don't remember the name, all I know it was a Taru who started with K =p

    You don't need rewards to help people, if you think it's work, and work is boring to you, don't do it. Simple.

    If you still insist you want rewards, join the many shouts that you see with "Reward" in them >.>
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zatias View Post
    Hey Kaych, weren't you the person I helped a long time ago with RR because your leader didn't know what the hell he was doing? XD I ended up telling him what proced and what didn't, threw in some outside cures, trained all the aggro out of your way and died, just so your group could get the atma. It took maybe 2 hours out of my time and I didn't get anything out of it, but I am still quite happy I did it.

    If that wasn't you, then carry on, (though the example still stands) I don't remember the name, all I know it was a Taru who started with K =p

    You don't need rewards to help people, if you think it's work, and work is boring to you, don't do it. Simple.

    If you still insist you want rewards, join the many shouts that you see with "Reward" in them >.>
    Your missing the whole entire point of the OP is trying to make.
    You should be happy for helping people even if you didn't get anything out of it.
    But not everybody will put the time like you have to do that for complete strangers.
    Even tho there are still a lot of people out there who do thank goodness.

    The OP is just saying people who wish to help should get bonus as a reward to help them through contents that many players don't need or do so it grabs more attention and reasons for others to help.
    Basicly OP wants this not only for himself but for everyone else so it encourages more "Team work" and more people to help each other out in general as a community.

    The OP is not thinking selfish, even tho it may appear that way in a sense, the OP is just saying people like you deserve a more appropriate Boost of rewards for helping others based on the content. This is to encourage more players to help each other out in a sense of "Your scratching my back and I'm scratching yours".

    He is more speaking of contents like missions and quests where you enter a BCNM fight or something and the players who already done them and are just helping out, get exclusive rewards that are more appropriate based on today's ffxi.
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    1. True Gamers plays to have fun.
    2. True Gamers don't play to waste time.
    3. True Gamers Aren't wasting time if they enjoy the contents they play while progressing.
    4. Gamers Love to see progression based on time/effort they put into challenges.
    5. Gamers plays for challenging Elements, and Wants more Enjoyable contents.
    6. Gamers don't play for Time Sink Elements, and Don't want A game to be a Chore!
    All Gamers Unite!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arlan View Post
    Your missing the whole entire point of the OP is trying to make.
    You should be happy for helping people even if you didn't get anything out of it.
    But not everybody will put the time like you have to do that for complete strangers.
    Even tho there are still a lot of people out there who do thank goodness.

    The OP is just saying people who wish to help should get bonus as a reward to help them through contents that many players don't need or do so it grabs more attention and reasons for others to help.
    Basicly OP wants this not only for himself but for everyone else so it encourages more "Team work" and more people to help each other out in general as a community.

    The OP is not thinking selfish, even tho it may appear that way in a sense, the OP is just saying people like you deserve a more appropriate Boost of rewards for helping others based on the content. This is to encourage more players to help each other out in a sense of "Your scratching my back and I'm scratching yours".

    He is more speaking of contents like missions and quests where you enter a BCNM fight or something and the players who already done them and are just helping out, get exclusive rewards that are more appropriate based on today's ffxi.
    This may be true but it also takes away the friendliness element of the game in a way. People in it for the reward will be more concerned about "I want to get this done ASAP for my reward" rather than actually having fun doing it. (OP may not be thinking selfish, but this WILL attract a lot of selfish people).

    Oh wait, lol.

    Call me selfish, but I dont really like helping people out, unless I get something from it
    That doesn't sound selfish at all! XP

    You might be getting people telling the person in need of help "Skip the cutscene", sighing as the person gets lost on the way to the BC, yelling when a mistake is made, among other things. Seeing a new player progress through the story and taking part in the progression is rewarding in itself (imo), making them rush through it so you can collect your reward isn't.

    Bottom line, though this may help encourage people to help out, it may also ruin the experience of those getting help. The nicer players assisting those in need will always be more effective than those attracted by the rewards system.

    Just my opinion, worth a little more than dirt.
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    Last edited by Zatias; 06-06-2011 at 10:21 PM. Reason: added a quote

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