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    Player Sp1cyryan's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camiie View Post
    Then there is a flaw in their DESIGN, because as long as I've been on I haven't seen anyone interested in forming a party for these. Heck, most of the time no one is around at all. The community just isn't there anymore to support this content.



    Don't take this the wrong way, but only you care about how special you feel. I know I'm not here to feel special. I just want to build as effective a character as I possibly can while having fun.



    I disagree. I feel like I struggle for everything. Sure things suck less than in the past, but there are still roadblocks to success.



    It's great that you can find the people you need at will. It's great that you're satisfied with a party of 119 level people not "meriting" any faster than a party of 75s while requiring far more points for far less of a boost.
    There is not a flaw in the design. That would be like saying there was a flaw in merits because the best way to get them at 75 was in a party. It does not matter how long you have been on and what you have seen. I am telling you I have made, joined, and done these parties, and there is also nothing stopping you from doing it yourself.

    You can say anything you like, and I wouldn't worry about taking it personally. However, I think it is likely others feel the same as I about sorts of things in this game. While it may not pertain to job points. Many players if you recall were very upset the REMs they worked on and were a little proud of. Were suddenly insignificant compared to delve weapons until they were updated again. So I do think that there are people who either proud (or at least happy) of certain accomplishments and capping job points would be one.
    Then there is this ridiculous impatient "gimme gimme" crowd who wants it at their speed and when that speed is quick or instant gratification they then turn around and cry for content.

    If you are struggling for everything perhaps you should look at your job and what you are ready for. I can clear a yorcia delve 1-5 with 20 minutes left with a complete PUG composed of two Tsumarru SAMs who have Fudo and accuracy gear for the T4, a 3 song eminent flute BRD, any reliable WHM, a SCH who can nuke, and my COR/dnc. In the same gesture I can make a PUG with five of the same people and a new SAM in 119 tsu who costs us the run because they simply are not ready.

    Same for difficult celestial nexus. I have made over 10 different PUGs for it with RNGs who have skirmish bow, and only lost a single time due to a bad WHM who layed on the floor most of the fight. Half of this game is knowing and then 25% is skill and 25% is gear. I assure you the only barriers in this game are the people you are with and what everyone knows.

    Finally, job points are not merits, and we have already had large scale merit increases. You can not look at them like merits. They were simply put in the game because we needed something to give us a reason to XP when merits are all capped easily. KIs are only as good as the ammount of things you need from them, and that is faster than job points.
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    Player Tennotsukai's Avatar
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    If they plan on making a blu spell set point increase to 30 by job points and call it fixing a job then job points better be easier to obtain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demonjustin View Post
    Simply put, the rate needs increased, not to the point of making them an overnight finished thing but to the point of making them worth the time to actually do it or care about it. Right now I do events like Delve and Skirmish all the time, the amount of points I get from them isn't enough to get my Magic Accuracy on RDM capped out and it's the only job I even play, it's at 6 points right now. If I can't even cap one thing after a few months of playing my only job in events that give these points then the rate isn't high enough for getting them as you go, not even close.
    The fact that you only play one job is your problem. The fact that it's a mage makes it twice as bad. Most events will take multiple DD per run but only one of each type of mage. You've basically locked yourself out of many event runs. RDM being somewhat common means joining PUGs is more difficult unless you jump in on before another person could take the one slot you fit into.

    Across two characters and six or so jobs, I've acquired 40.5 Job Points. Like you, however, none of them have progressed beyond 6 Job Points into a single field.

    I don't see any reason Job Points presently need any boost to acquisition rate.
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    We disagree then and my playing one job doesn't actually hurt me in the same way you seem to believe. I can join most runs as either a support or a DD, the only events I'm currently unable to perform as a DD in are Delve II and VD MPNMs, the former of which I can perform as a nuker and the latter of which I simply don't do as a result. In either case I have multiple ways to get Job Points, I just simply don't amass them nearly fast enough to be reasonable in my opinion. The fact I play only one job isn't so much a problem to me as it is an example of how even if they didn't limit the points to being locked to a single job that I still don't think it'd be reasonable.
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