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    How is it best? I can point you to math that proves otherwise.
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    Last edited by Leonlionheart; 07-04-2011 at 08:45 AM.

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    Kam told me that was the best setup for war TP, please provide math. I'm terribly sorry that I cannot(no sarcasm here honest lol). And to clarify, you use the moonshade to get the 6 hit. Explain to me why what i posted isn't the best for war and why with math to back it up, and i'll do my best to get math to support it when kam gets on.
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    https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B0A...t&num=50&pli=1

    Here's the DPS calculator for you to see.

    I found it here, (thread comes with much testing): http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/19...-fury-setup/6/
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    Last edited by Leonlionheart; 07-04-2011 at 08:50 AM.

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    Most of the 5 hit data assumed Carbonara I believe, I did it assuming Carbo as well and 6 hit was winning by a small margin; according to Mojo the better food would be Arrabiatos(sp?). Haven't done the testing assuming it for inside/outside.
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    Food:

    Arrabbiata: http://www.ffxiah.com/item/5211/arrabbiata (+22.5% Attack, Cap 120) Stack Price: 300k

    Carbonara: http://www.ffxiah.com/item/5190/carbonara (+18% Attack, Cap 65) Stack Price: 60k

    Red Curry Bun: http://www.ffxiah.com/item/5759/red-curry-bun (+23% Attack, Cap 150) Stack Price: 58k

    5hit is losing 30 Attack just from food. Not to mention 3% Crit Rate (Grip), 4 STR 8 Attack (Ammo) 35 Attack 3% DA(Cape) .39% Haste 4 DEX 4 STR (Ring) That's quite a big loss in just gear, but add in the food and you're dying.
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    The difference between Aurara's "Goal" set and my "Goal" Set

    Ear2 (Moonshade(Assume 4 Attack+Regain) Vs. Rvg. Earring)
    Ring2 (Keen(or Flame/Pyrosoul/Strigoi) Vs. Blitz)
    Belt (Ninurta Vs. Goading)

    Set "Aurara" (Assuming Keen Ring since accessible): +18 Attack, +1Regain
    Set "Leon": +1% DA, 3 Attack, 5 STP
    ...

    Why Set "Leon" is better:
    -Reliability of Regain as compared to straight 6hit from STP: Capped Haste attack rounds are 1.6 seconds. That means you get 1 TP per 2 Swings. It takes 9.6 seconds for all 6 swings. Ukko's Furry takes away 1 swing, but due to ability delay we can safely say its not an issue. The problem we have then is that TA, DA, and most importantly Retaliation reduces the amount of time between Ukko's Fury and 100% TP. With 1 TA 1 DA you are cut down to two attack rounds per 100% TP, meaning you would be at 99% TP instead of 100% TP with Regain. This is fixable by waiting, but odds are (unless you miss) you will get another hit in before you get another tick of Regain. With a base of 15% TA inside abyssea and 30% DA, you have high chances of losing an entire attack round to waiting on regain rather than just having enough STP.

    -1% DA is actually more TP for you, and more chances of Set Proc ODD.

    The only way set "Aurara" performs better is without buffs, in which case it is indeed slightly better (by 15 attack really). That's it. 15 Attack. Instead of going through the PAIN of getting Ninurta+Moonshade you could get 5 more attack with THE SAME AMOUNT OF HASTE by:

    Set "More Attack Than Thou": Ear2(Centaurus Earring), Ring2(Keen Ring), Waist(Goading Belt) Hands(Perle Moufles)
    Attack +28 (The true Attack Difference of Set "Aurura" is actually 5 because AF3+2 hands give 6 attack (From the 9 STR).

    Conclusion: You should be using set "More Attack Than Thou" when restraint is down anyway, though Rvg. Earring would be better than Centaurus earring in terms of actual DPS.
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    You mean a set like this? cause Kam put together this one too(this is the one that's more realistic for me)
    http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/218925
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aurara View Post
    You mean a set like this? cause Kam put together this one too(this is the one that's more realistic for me)
    http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/218925
    That's the one. That's what I'm going for too actually, just missing the Adaman Hauberk.

    In all honesty apparently Askar Body is better than +2, but I don't even have that. If I did I don't know if I'd use it though.

    Difference between Askar and Adaman: 5 STR 10 DEX 3 Attack 15 Accuracy, which in honesty is almost nothing in terms of TP rounds, since it keeps your xhit while giving the same amount of DA as a good aug'd Hauberk.
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    Well, IF i get N.sash AND Mars' ring ill use that set, but really the difference between the two is very miniscule and probably not even worth arguing about. But the second one is the one i'm also trying to get, no armadaberk though. Need to augment my nq and get 4/2
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leonlionheart View Post
    That's the one. That's what I'm going for too actually, just missing the Adaman Hauberk.

    In all honesty apparently Askar Body is better than +2, but I don't even have that. If I did I don't know if I'd use it though.

    Difference between Askar and Adaman: 5 STR 10 DEX 3 Attack 15 Accuracy, which in honesty is almost nothing in terms of TP rounds, since it keeps your xhit while giving the same amount of DA as a good aug'd Hauberk.
    In that link we have Zelus Tiara,Goading belt,Ravager's legs and feet +2 with a blitz ring.I have access to all of that gear,no big woo.
    I know before all of the above gear was created we had the haste test and an actual haste % was proven for Homam,Speed belt Dusk +1 etc.
    My question is: Do we know for sure that Zelus,Goading,Rvg legs+2 and feet +2 do not cap haste alone,as they may all be worth exactly or a little bit more haste % than whats incribed on them.

    Edit : Also you can achieve DA+3 on Adaberk
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    Last edited by Shirkan; 07-05-2011 at 08:35 AM.

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