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    Player Aeron's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Babekeke View Post
    Fair enough. I was never sure how it gave enmity for /blu so I've never bothered to set it anyway.

    And TBH as RUN, if you can hit all 6 people in your party with Valiance, while you have Crusade up and if you're using Aettir, you get 7560 VE and 3780 CE. This is more even than Invincible or Elemental Sforzo give as base (obviously with aettir and crusade on they give more again), and you can use Valiance every 5 mins.

    So you really don't need any enmity spells as /BLU, but they can be handy if you've had hate reset and valiance isn't up.
    That is a ridiculous amount of enmity. Really pisses me off that they got runs ja enmity values right and pld enmity values suck.
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    Player Babekeke's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeron View Post
    That is a ridiculous amount of enmity. Really pisses me off that they got runs ja enmity values right and pld enmity values suck.
    You're right, though at least PLD gets a lot more +enmity on their gear that they're wearing most of the time anyway. Flash does a lot more for PLD than it does for RUN, but it doesn't really make up for it.

    When I team up with a PLD to dual-tank stuff, I let him take initial hate while I just hit the mob once, then make sure that all of the party is within range before using Valiance. BOOM! now I'm tanking PLD doesn't stand a chance at all, really. I usually then pop Battuta and once it wears I stand behind the PLD for cover while I get all my necessary buffs up. Then hit swordplay. When that wears, Battuta is up again... rinse and repeat.

    I even find myself buffing the PLD with the likes of refresh (if we don't have a RDM) and regen (if we don't have a SCH) just to make sure that they are alive/have MP to cure me if anything goes Pete Tong.

    Was really strange fighting delve NMs for beads in margarine ravine. Aegis PLD died a couple of times, but I didn't. Both of us Tarus.
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    Player Martel's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Babekeke View Post
    You're right, though at least PLD gets a lot more +enmity on their gear that they're wearing most of the time anyway. Flash does a lot more for PLD than it does for RUN, but it doesn't really make up for it.
    On the flip side of that coin, RUN spell recasts are a lot better than PLDs. Owing to the massive fastcast RUN has. So while a PLD might have a more potent flash, a RUN will pump out more casts.
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    Player Damane's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Martel View Post
    On the flip side of that coin, RUN spell recasts are a lot better than PLDs. Owing to the massive fastcast RUN has. So while a PLD might have a more potent flash, a RUN will pump out more casts.
    thats true, but plds have the safety net of cureing themself if needed (not that cures give much enmity), which RUN does not have, they are totally at the mercy of their healer/support. considerign they take more physical dmg it also makes sense for them to preduce more enmity, sinse they loose alot more via physical hits then pld.
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