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  1. #111
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    Quote Originally Posted by dmuller30 View Post
    Actually visual + game play make a good game. And that is my opinion just like yours is great gameplay onry. Now for the ones who want good upgraded graphics that is there opinion and I agree with them. I don't play WoW because I don't like the graphics. To me you can have the best game play in the world but I don't want to sit and stare at a game I don't find visually appealing. I do find FFXI visually appealing because I grew up playing it so the graphics don't bother me. But I would love to see a visual upgrade on the game.
    When I said graphics don't matter, I meant in terms of the current game. As in adding more polygons or increasing the texture maps doesn't matter when compared to just adding more content to it. If Square spent 10 million making the engine of ffxi look like ffxiv but didn't add any new content almost all of us would leave.

    As I said, you can't have a graphics upgrade without them stopping work on new content, do you want more content or better graphics? You can't have both... unless you expect them to put a whole other team on making graphics upgrades.

    Also many are vastly underestimating how much a graphics upgrade would cost for this game, mainly in terms of how much money people who do this are paid.
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    The graphics of ffxi are fine... my only wish is they would add more granularity to the settings rather than requiring registry edits to get best graphics. Also getting off direct X 8 or whatever it's running would be swell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pixela View Post
    When I said graphics don't matter, I meant in terms of the current game. As in adding more polygons or increasing the texture maps doesn't matter when compared to just adding more content to it. If Square spent 10 million making the engine of ffxi look like ffxiv but didn't add any new content almost all of us would leave.

    As I said, you can't have a graphics upgrade without them stopping work on new content, do you want more content or better graphics? You can't have both... unless you expect them to put a whole other team on making graphics upgrades.

    Also many are vastly underestimating how much a graphics upgrade would cost for this game, mainly in terms of how much money people who do this are paid.
    So your telling me that most other games that have enhanced their graphics had to hire a whole other team to pump out those graphical increases and spend an insane amount of money to do so? Bull, look at modding community texture packs can be built by just a few people and they leave the game looking amazing. Not to mention upgrading and enhancing our character models can be done just the same with just 2/3 people. If they can do it with 2/3 people then so could SE. Character creation on this game is in it's most simplest form so the creation of HD remade models would be pretty easy or implementing the ones used in character creation with enhanced graphics would be minimal effort. There are tons of people on this game that want a graphical upgrades of some kind, not just the people on this post. And SE or any other company wouldn't say we are doing a graphics update so lets just halt the implementation of any new content that is just common sense. WoW, Aion, Tera are just a few among many who went through graphical upgrades while still getting new content added and improving on old content. So if other companies can enhance graphics on both F2P and P2P so could SE considering it is now possible with no PS2 or XBOX to limit them.
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    In my opinion, the best upgrade they could make would be to make the game engine use a modern Direct X version. Imagine FFXI at a constant 60 fps...
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    If you have a >4.8GHz i5-3570k and a reasonable video card, you should be able to maintain 60fps under all conditions with shadows off -- but only on windows XP 32-bit. The direct3d translation Microsoft added in later windows versions adds about 30% overhead, which will cut the framerate down from 60 to ~45fps in the worst case. Processors newer than the 3570k (which can't run windows XP properly) are not faster enough to make up for this translation overhead. Due to intel's recent refocus on low-performance computing, this situation is not likely to change for a very long time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diraco View Post
    If you have a >4.8GHz i5-3570k and a reasonable video card, you should be able to maintain 60fps under all conditions with shadows off -- but only on windows XP 32-bit. The direct3d translation Microsoft added in later windows versions adds about 30% overhead, which will cut the framerate down from 60 to ~45fps in the worst case. Processors newer than the 3570k (which can't run windows XP properly) are not faster enough to make up for this translation overhead. Due to intel's recent refocus on low-performance computing, this situation is not likely to change for a very long time.
    No mmorpg can maintain 60fps due to the nature of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diraco View Post
    If you have a >4.8GHz i5-3570k and a reasonable video card, you should be able to maintain 60fps under all conditions with shadows off -- but only on windows XP 32-bit. The direct3d translation Microsoft added in later windows versions adds about 30% overhead, which will cut the framerate down from 60 to ~45fps in the worst case. Processors newer than the 3570k (which can't run windows XP properly) are not faster enough to make up for this translation overhead. Due to intel's recent refocus on low-performance computing, this situation is not likely to change for a very long time.
    You can run at a stable 60fps (or close enough, anyway) with shadows on and draw distance turned up to max without needing to use a 32-bit Win XP.
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    FFXI is capped at < 30fps...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catmato View Post
    FFXI is capped at < 30fps...
    You don't have to search very hard to see this can be changed, like a lot of other aspects of the game.
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    pardon my english
    omg, I would love to see an upgrade graphics in ffxi, even if it is only to HD textures and not a remake. Also 60 fps would be lovely.
    I am not a current player, quit last december but talked with some rl friends and they may be interested to come back if something like graphic upgrade is made.
    We will pay for that, obvioulsy not $90 but a $29.90 like an expantion sounds good,
    I tossed money to SE for this game for 12 years, i don't care to toss some extra $ more if it makes my game prettier.
    god, i miss my game ;_;
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