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    Player Byrth's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by sweetidealism View Post
    This is not the case. Stuff like that is only for outgoing spells and effects, not incoming.
    No, he is right. This is what makes the combination of Obis so logically nebulous. If you are in Temenos on darksday with double light weather wearing Anrin Obi, you take -10% light damage from Citadel Buster instead of up to +25%. If you were wearing a combined obi, what should happen? They would have to come out with both an enhancing and reducing combined Obi to be thorough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Byrth View Post
    No, he is right. This is what makes the combination of Obis so logically nebulous. If you are in Temenos on darksday with double light weather wearing Anrin Obi, you take -10% light damage from Citadel Buster instead of up to +25%. If you were wearing a combined obi, what should happen? They would have to come out with both an enhancing and reducing combined Obi to be thorough.
    Perhaps the fact that not many people were clear about this shows that no one really used it defensively, or at least not enough to matter. They got rid of the specific bonuses on the elemental staves (e.g. PDT on earth staff) when combining them and no one batted an eye because you can hold both iridal/chatoyant staff and the other staves. If a certain player wants to split hairs by using the obis defensively, they can go farm/quest another one and hold both, but I very much doubt anyone will. There is no excuse for not combining the obis/gorgets/etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Byrth View Post
    No, he is right. This is what makes the combination of Obis so logically nebulous. If you are in Temenos on darksday with double light weather wearing Anrin Obi, you take -10% light damage from Citadel Buster instead of up to +25%. If you were wearing a combined obi, what should happen? They would have to come out with both an enhancing and reducing combined Obi to be thorough.
    Well, the Chatoyant took the best qualities of the staves instead of having both the negative and positive. So you can always have something like...

    Based on day: Incoming Spell Damage -10%, Spell Damage +10%
    Based on Weather: Incoming Spell Damage -10/25%, SpellDamage +10/25%.
    (Combined): -whatever +whatever (IDK full details on that)

    Removing the negative qualities of the belts, much like the weakening of spells and increasing of perpetuation cost of certain elements based on the original Elemental staves. Would this make the Obi's OP...? Maybe, It'd still be based on day/weather, maybe it'd make Storm spells a bit more useful than their "Just put up Firestorm and shut up" that it is now, if even put up at all.

    Still, with a SCH Weather and matching day (which i imagine could happen every so often), its an extra 25% MDT(I know its not really MDT but a separate calculation) for a DD job if they add this hypothetical Obi to their DT sets... which is actually kinda strong, but in most cases it would just be -10% from SCH spell, which is still kinda strong, but not super OP.
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    That response just boggles my mind. I would love an explanation of how a combined elemental gorget, belt or obi would be overpowered in today's FFXI. Is the development team seriously trying to say that the ability to only carry so much inventory is an attribute of game balance? Because when you add item level gear that is both great for WS and TP phases for some instances, Geomancy +, Phantom Roll+, Iridal/Chatoyant Staff, Universal Ninja Tools, Universal Quick Draw cards, the recent stacking of a ton of crafting materials, etc. It is hard to take the concept of "inventory = game balance" even remotely seriously.

    Wasn't it not just recently after Mog Wardrobe was implemented that the development team or Matsui stated they will continue to take steps to alleviate player inventory? So, for some odd reason this suggestion is not applicable? Besides inventory saving, I see no unique extra effect to consolidating these. If they are talking about "Iridescence" that they added onto the combined elemental staves, just don't add anything new. Players would be happy for just saving all the inventory.

    FYI: About the elemental grips, pretty much already exists. Mephitis Grip (Magic Accuracy+5 Enfeebling Magic Skill +5) says hello.
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    Plus, we switch our equipment anyway. We go from a TP neck to a WS neck and back again either way. Keeping gorgets separate is just an annoyance.
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    While I admit it's a good point, I still don't think it's reason enough this would be 'overpowered' since this is something players who care about it will do anyways via swaps & such.
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    Camate, if they feel an Iridial obi/gorget would be too powerful, you should to remind them the players are iLVL119, not Lv.75 anymore and that equipment is Lv.71/72. I'm pretty sure there are many pieces of gear now that have the combined effects of 8+ pieces of 75 cap gear.

    If it is actually a coding issue of forcing only the good weather/day to proc, they would have just told you that instead I would hope.
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    Since we've been making adjustments to weapon skills, the timing is just about right for a way to combine all of your elemental gorgets, obis, and belts, so the team will be exploring the ways in which to make this happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grekumah View Post
    Since we've been making adjustments to weapon skills, the timing is just about right for a way to combine all of your elemental gorgets, obis, and belts, so the team will be exploring the ways in which to make this happen.
    1000 times yes - thank you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grekumah View Post
    Since we've been making adjustments to weapon skills, the timing is just about right for a way to combine all of your elemental gorgets, obis, and belts, so the team will be exploring the ways in which to make this happen.
    This would be outstanding, thank you.
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