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    Player Kavik's Avatar
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    Besieged - update please!

    I am all for the adjustments being asked for in another thread on this forum as it relates to campaign, but i daresay we should have a bigger gripe on a system that has had no attention for some time. Yes i remember when besieged lasted for like 3 hours, you didn't get exp if you were dead when it ended etc etc. But I feel since i have seen no other posts for it that i must speak up, if i missed them i'm sorry, we NEED an updated besieged. Currently for an hour or so's worth of work you can get........1.5k exp! That's assuming the enemy was level 8 attacking and they did not steal the candance and you contributed a LOT with damage and cures. The same amount that can be made in less then 5 abyssea mobs if you're in one of the Hero's areas for sitting and doing nothing. The same amount is true of Imperial Standing, which is, now that abyssea is the only place people go to exp, fairly difficult to obtain. Currently the reason probably most people do besieged is because it is a battlefield that you can skill up in without fear of losing a bunch of exp by dying. Perhaps make it a 'by mob' exp drop like in bastion. Hey wait! I told my friend when they asked what is Bastion? I told him Besieged for abyssea, although bastion is far 'easier' and far more lucrative. In short the changes I propose are:

    1) Make Besieged more frequent
    2) Increase the Exp yield
    3) Increase the IS yield
    4) Make each mob drop exp based off it's difficulty like in Bastion
    5) Grant bonuses for killing certain mobs (Hydra, Medusa to name a few) perhaps a KI that drops to all players that can be exchanged at the sanction people for a certain # of the item, like the battle trophy system in abyssea.
    5.5) Make these mobs stay longer then the last 5 mins of battle.
    6) Shut the gates to al zhabi when there is a besieged going on and make an NPC or a clickable door that says "Martial law has been declared, are you sure you want to enter?"
    7) make some kind of besieged warning system. Like, if you are of a certain rank in your assault missions you get a KI that 'broadcasts' that besieged is taking place, kind of like the marble bridge coaster, only in a broader area, so you do not have to sit and stare at the Besieged tab or sit in whitegate waiting for it, when you could be doing something else
    8) I am sure i can think of more things but i currently have a cold so i'm somewhere between and

    If anyone has any more ideas to add please post them, if you think besieged is fine the way it is, your entitled to your opinion. Thank you.
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    Player Kavik's Avatar
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    I see still no love for besieged ><
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    I'm with you! I want can has moar Besieged!! There's never one going on when I climb out of my hole and log into the game
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    General thing is people go where the best experience/reward lies, and since Besiged, Campaign, Assult, Salvage, Nyzul, and Dynamis fall terribly short due to all the new upgrades, content, and exp. boosts, theres a FAT chance that you won't see people going out of their way to do any of the old content without a major rehaul to all those aspects.

    I don't really know how long many of you have been playing, but the same thing happened when ToAU came out about five years ago. Getting 4-6k exp an hour used to be good, when ToAU came out it jumped to 10-30k an hour you never did see anyone exp in the older zones, now that Abyssea has come out as the exp king you don't hardly see anyone in WG anymore.
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    Player Orenwald's Avatar
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    they should cap the exp on a 200/200 besieged at 10k EXP, which would make it basically the best EXP you could make solo
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    Many good ideas in the first post there. Personally, I think the concept with monsters invading a city, and players fighting them off is pretty cool. I still try to do a few besiegeds whenever i see them starting, but I must say it is sometimes hard to justify spending an hour in besieged for so to get a reward of perhaps just 1600 exp. That's also from lv8 besiegeds, lower leveled ones grant as little as 500 sometimes. Come on, that's something you can solo in a few minutes elsewhere.

    Here are the things I've been thinking would make besieged more interesting, some might have been mentioned earlier, but whatever.

    An even higher max level besieged, one that can bring a challenge even to a bunch of lv90 characters. Lv 9 besiegeds could happen occasionally after successfully defending against lv8 ones perhaps 5 times in a row, then defending against 5 lv9s could make lv10s happen now and then. These new higher leveled besiegeds would be hard as balls, and perhaps grant as much as 25k-30k exp for lv10, and 15-20k for lv9.

    Perhaps they could also drop key items that could be redeemable for special items that are relevant to lv90 charcters. They don't need to obsolete every abyssea item there is, but it could be as good as or slightly better than some of them.

    More exp for the current besieged levels. Lv8 could cap at for example 10k, lv5 at 5k, lv3 at 3k. I don't think this is an unreasonable amount considering exp all around the world has been doubled already, and abyssea can grant you over 100000 exp per hour.

    Maybe add an item that during besieged could warp you to right outside al zahbi from anywhere in the world.

    Optional global announcement when besiegeds are about to start. This would be able to turn off in chat filters for those that aren't interested

    Make it so that people who lose connection during besieged don't lose all the exp they have accumulated up to that point.

    What about a decent atma that would be linked to astral candescence status? that could give some people more incentive to keep beastmen from taking it. Seeing as few people level in aht urhgan now, many players don't care if astral candy is lost.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirage View Post
    Optional global announcement when besiegeds are about to start. This would be able to turn off in chat filters for those that aren't interested
    If you secretly have an item that already does this Imma beat you with a Rock! xD
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    Where would I get such an item from?
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    I like OPs Idea actually. Its hard to get ISP these days with no PTs around Aht Urghan.
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    yeah. besieged is just about the only IS source i've got now
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