Results 1 to 10 of 54

Thread: Server Merge

Hybrid View

  1. #1
    Player Afania's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Posts
    1,452
    Character
    Afania
    World
    Bahamut
    Main Class
    BRD Lv 1
    Quote Originally Posted by Lithera View Post
    Lol JP onry has almost been the norm before XIV v1 came out. Unless they were desperate and felt your gear wasn't luz they would allow you to join. Windower and copy/paste is fine if you're on a PC, but some of us run this game via Xbox. So doing that is not an option most of the time. That and you can't read them or you wouldn't need to use a translator in the first place. Saying that the one English shout = an abundant of shouts for something doesn't equal shouts going on all the time.
    No, what I mean was. JP onry has been the norm in FFXI, but not FFXIV ARR when it was out. Since ARR allows player to type JP without using windower/JP client, then plenty of FFXIV player just copy/paste JP from google translate and join JP pt, without letting the pt leader know. In the end even in ARR JP onry became the norm.



    Quote Originally Posted by Demonjustin View Post
    I wouldn't go so far as to say none for days, but I myself have had a mule sitting in Adoulin for the last 3 days watching for the events I need right now which amounts to Tenzen, Ouryu, Stellar Fulcrum, and Delve. In the last 3 days I've seen 2 shouts for 1 of the 4 things I listed that I was able to join and that's with me watching between the hours of noon to 4Am EST, which I think fits NA Primetime in there somewhere. In either case, your server may not be as bad as Phoenix on population, but over here, it's quite bad.
    The point is that Tumz insisted that there are no English /shout is entirely server population's fault, which I disagree with. Server pop is only half of the reason, NA culture toward /shout is different from JP is another half.

    NA players tend to rely on connections for event, most of my friends, LS mate and myself hate /shout with a passion. Most of the ppl I know, when they do event they simply just go with LS/friend. You'd never see them /shout at all. Especially delve2 or merc runs. If you try delve2 or even delve1 runs with PUG, 95% of the time they suck. Any player smart enough wouldn't spend 1hr to make a shout pt just to fail.

    There are a lot more JP /shout going on than English /shout, which I agree. But that's not just because there are more JP population, but because JP tend to have more reliable /shout group.

    In fact, even for easier stuff such as rem's tale farm, my ls and friends just go with mules/another close friend and do easier mode, instead of dealing with /shout.

    That's at least half of the reason why there aren't many /shout: Nobody want to play with random.

    However, when I brought up the difference between NA culture and JP when it comes to /shout, I'm being labelled as fanboy. Even though I see no direct connection between low server pop and the lack of /shout.

    Further more, now that there are many different events in this game, you do need some luck if you only want to see specific event you want to do. You may be camping SKCNM legs run /shout for days, but the /shout popped for past 5 days are SKCNM head runs, delve1 Tojil, Skirmish3, Einherjar and so on.

    So the result is, although there are English /shouts all the time, you automatically filter it out because thats not the event you want to do. That doesn't make your argument legit. I can argue that I wanna do VW Hahava, but there were like zero hahava /shout in past 10 days, then I go on to argue that English /shout doesn't exist because any English /shout for event I don't want to do doesn't count.

    However, if you look at the amount of English /shout as a whole, without filtering out events you don't want to do, it's not THAT bad. Slightly lower than JP, but not as bad as Tumz described.


    Quote Originally Posted by Demonjustin View Post
    The point of the forums is feedback, how can you say that the better solution is to go use Google to translate things and try to join parties that way rather than coming here to say something about the server population being an issue for joining groups? If the only thing we ever did to solve the issue in this game was to try things outside of the forums the forums would have no point in being here in the first place. That being said, yes, there are some workarounds you can try as you're saying, but it's not a substitute for a real solution implemented in some way by SE.
    The only solution Tumz presented is server merge, and apparently SE can't solve the instance issue. So I presented an alternate method to solve his problem, what's wrong with that? What else do you expect? Tell him to sit in Adoulin continue to camp /shout? Or yell at SE for server merge and deal with 140 people in AA battle BC? If you want to be successful at something, you try to solve the problem when other ppl can't solve the problem for you.
    (4)
    Last edited by Afania; 05-09-2014 at 04:38 AM.

  2. #2
    Player Lithera's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Posts
    733
    Character
    Lithera
    World
    Shiva
    Main Class
    BST Lv 1
    Quote Originally Posted by Afania View Post
    No, what I mean was. JP onry has been the norm in FFXI, but not FFXIV ARR when it was out. Since ARR allows player to type JP without using windower/JP client, then plenty of FFXIV player just copy/paste JP from google translate and join JP pt, without letting the pt leader know. In the end even in ARR JP onry became the norm
    Maybe on the JP servers this is true, but XI doesn't have separate servers like XIV does.
    (0)