No, what I mean was. JP onry has been the norm in FFXI, but not FFXIV ARR when it was out. Since ARR allows player to type JP without using windower/JP client, then plenty of FFXIV player just copy/paste JP from google translate and join JP pt, without letting the pt leader know. In the end even in ARR JP onry became the norm.
The point is that Tumz insisted that there are no English /shout is entirely server population's fault, which I disagree with. Server pop is only half of the reason, NA culture toward /shout is different from JP is another half.
NA players tend to rely on connections for event, most of my friends, LS mate and myself hate /shout with a passion. Most of the ppl I know, when they do event they simply just go with LS/friend. You'd never see them /shout at all. Especially delve2 or merc runs. If you try delve2 or even delve1 runs with PUG, 95% of the time they suck. Any player smart enough wouldn't spend 1hr to make a shout pt just to fail.
There are a lot more JP /shout going on than English /shout, which I agree. But that's not just because there are more JP population, but because JP tend to have more reliable /shout group.
In fact, even for easier stuff such as rem's tale farm, my ls and friends just go with mules/another close friend and do easier mode, instead of dealing with /shout.
That's at least half of the reason why there aren't many /shout: Nobody want to play with random.
However, when I brought up the difference between NA culture and JP when it comes to /shout, I'm being labelled as fanboy. Even though I see no direct connection between low server pop and the lack of /shout.
Further more, now that there are many different events in this game, you do need some luck if you only want to see specific event you want to do. You may be camping SKCNM legs run /shout for days, but the /shout popped for past 5 days are SKCNM head runs, delve1 Tojil, Skirmish3, Einherjar and so on.
So the result is, although there are English /shouts all the time, you automatically filter it out because thats not the event you want to do. That doesn't make your argument legit. I can argue that I wanna do VW Hahava, but there were like zero hahava /shout in past 10 days, then I go on to argue that English /shout doesn't exist because any English /shout for event I don't want to do doesn't count.
However, if you look at the amount of English /shout as a whole, without filtering out events you don't want to do, it's not THAT bad. Slightly lower than JP, but not as bad as Tumz described.
The only solution Tumz presented is server merge, and apparently SE can't solve the instance issue. So I presented an alternate method to solve his problem, what's wrong with that? What else do you expect? Tell him to sit in Adoulin continue to camp /shout? Or yell at SE for server merge and deal with 140 people in AA battle BC? If you want to be successful at something, you try to solve the problem when other ppl can't solve the problem for you.


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