Quote Originally Posted by Afania View Post
1. But there were 1 English /shout in SS(although it's not skirmish 3), and 1 JP VW /shout that's apparently accepting English player. In fact I just checked FFXI AH /shout channel 1 min ago and I saw 3 English /shout going on: 1 AA GK normal, 1 Foret 1~4, and 1 Einherjar T3. This isn't even NA prime time.So your argument is not legit.

I honestly don't know HOW there wouldn't be 1 single English /shout for days.
I wouldn't go so far as to say none for days, but I myself have had a mule sitting in Adoulin for the last 3 days watching for the events I need right now which amounts to Tenzen, Ouryu, Stellar Fulcrum, and Delve. In the last 3 days I've seen 2 shouts for 1 of the 4 things I listed that I was able to join and that's with me watching between the hours of noon to 4Am EST, which I think fits NA Primetime in there somewhere. In either case, your server may not be as bad as Phoenix on population, but over here, it's quite bad.

2. It is possible to join JP /shout on BRD and SCH, true story. I have tons of friends got into JP /shout on BRD SCH because they're desperate. If you use windower just google translate copy/paste stuff. Tumz complained he had issue with the number of /shout, and apparently JP /shout more often than NA, may as well just join JP /shout.
This is a 1 way street. I can translate their shout because it's on FFXIAH, I can translate what I say via the method you mentioned, but once in party there's no way for me to translate what they're saying to me so that I may reply. The only thing I'll know that they say is things they shout that FFXIAH can pick up, and from then on I'll be able to translate what I say to them but any reply to me will be nothing more than scribbles I can't understand.

3. I just translated every JP /shout in SS, apparently "You regularly join shouts you can't read" isn't true. I can read it, and if I have BRD I'd regularly join them already. Even without BRD I joined some of their /shout back when my job were wanted in 18 man version delve. If I use windower/JP client they probably can't tell I'm not a JP thanks to google.....that's how I join tons of JP /shout back when I play ARR before JP onry mentality become a norm. If the lack of /shout is really that much of a big deal, may as well try to solve the issue with google translate, instead of complaining on OF.
The point of the forums is feedback, how can you say that the better solution is to go use Google to translate things and try to join parties that way rather than coming here to say something about the server population being an issue for joining groups? If the only thing we ever did to solve the issue in this game was to try things outside of the forums the forums would have no point in being here in the first place. That being said, yes, there are some workarounds you can try as you're saying, but it's not a substitute for a real solution implemented in some way by SE.

You're also assuming that it's easy jobs like BRD that'd be played, or that people have those jobs. Yes some support jobs are easy enough, BRD can have the songs needed auto-trans'd if need be, as can COR, WHM is easy enough as well, but there are times when communication matters and in those moments it can become an issue to have to auto-trans everything or simply not possible to do so. In the end though, while it's possible to join groups this way in the end it's still not the best solution, and coming here to ask for a better one isn't a bad thing.