Server Merge

[Afania]

Meh, I have a geared WHM, BRD, and SCH. I'm looking for shouts for new delve zones/skirmish 3 and don't see them at all most nights. Get your head out of the sand and look around, a couple months ago I was constantly in a run with another one lined up after that one ended. A lot of my friends have moved on and NA linkshells are dying off in my Time Zone. I love this game, but I hate soloing.

Or maybe you should get your head out of the sand. I see Skirmish 3 /shout almost everyday. There are more skirmish3 /shout than anything else.

As for delve2, it's more of the event/community issue than population issue. 90% of the player I know, either just buy win or bead delve2 zone and get clear, then farm plasm in delve1 zones and buy delve2 items with plasm. I know maybe less than 5 groups of ppl in NA community that has the ability to do 6 NM run in delve2 zones, and they don't /shout for people.

Personally, I avoid /shouting if I'm going to do a delve2 6 NM run(in fact I avoid /shouting for delve1 most of the time too). Unless I'm really, really desperate. And most of the time desperation give me bad result. The experience, skill, gear required for delve2 run is quite exclusive. Unless I know someone with experience, I wouldn't want to waste my time with random. Not just because there'a risk that I can get bad player, but also because I need to spend 30 min to explain everything before a run if that person is new to delve2. So most of the time, I just go with ppl I know.

If you want to do delve2, get your head out of the sand and look around for other players/close friends to do it with, don't rely on /shout. Even if there's /shout you'd have much better result doing delve2 without /shout pt. Skirmish 3 is there everyday, don't filter /shout and /yell.

[tumz]

Or maybe you should get your head out of the sand. I see Skirmish 3 /shout almost everyday. There are more skirmish3 /shout than anything else.

As for delve2, it's more of the event/community issue than population issue. 90% of the player I know, either just buy win or bead delve2 zone and get clear, then farm plasm in delve1 zones and buy delve2 items with plasm. I know maybe less than 5 groups of ppl in NA community that has the ability to do 6 NM run in delve2 zones, and they don't /shout for people.

Personally, I avoid /shouting if I'm going to do a delve2 6 NM run(in fact I avoid /shouting for delve1 most of the time too). Unless I'm really, really desperate. And most of the time desperation give me bad result. The experience, skill, gear required for delve2 run is quite exclusive. Unless I know someone with experience, I wouldn't want to waste my time with random. Not just because there'a risk that I can get bad player, but also because I need to spend 30 min to explain everything before a run if that person is new to delve2. So most of the time, I just go with ppl I know.

If you want to do delve2, get your head out of the sand and look around for other players/close friends to do it with, don't rely on /shout. Even if there's /shout you'd have much better result doing delve2 without /shout pt. Skirmish 3 is there everyday, don't filter /shout and /yell.

Last Skirmish 3 shout was 3 days ago at 4 AM my time. As far as Delve 2, that makes sense, but still surprised I don't see a BRD / WHM shout on Delve 2. So on Pheonix, there isn't Skirmish 3 shouts everyday... maybe its different on your server.

[04:27:37] Phoenix.Rhett[Port Jeuno] : «Outer Ra'Kaznar» «Skirmish» 111 @4/6 «White Mage» «Can I have it?» «Thank you.»
*Information provided by Shout Search in Guildwork Premium

Edit: I forgot to call you a fanboy!
Edit 2: Tumz's trolling skill rises 0.2 points.

[detlef]

Edit 2: Tumz's trolling skill rises 0.2 points.

To be fair you only get 0.2's when your skill is really low.

The reason you don't see shouts for Delve 2 is that your dead weight really hurts you. A few months ago before they Fracture HP adjustment, there was no reason not to fill your ally. But now you're penalized for bringing more people. Basically you won't see people shouting much for these zones because they're too hard for pickup groups. This may change in the coming months because the next Login has Yggzi beads. Ra'kazner Skirmish is a flawed event so it doesn't surprise me that interest has been fading. People just get sick of it.

Honestly it just sounds like your server sucks for various reasons. The good players have banded together and retreated from the public eye. Or perhaps they've quit or server hopped. Regardless, certain aspects of the game already are on the cusp of serious congestion and a server merge would only exacerbate that. You're probably better off server hopping to a more populated NA server (SE has made this cheaper and easier to do lately).

[Castanica]

SE posted sever losses for last year, playstation dumped all it's SE stock, and they're basically bleeding cash, I wouldn't count on them doing much of anything in the way of server mergers if it cost money to do. They put out FFXIV and claim 2 million players on the front page of their lodestone, but if that was the case they wouldn't be so hard up right now. I don't know what they're thinking, but they could have kept alot of people by doing a merge when they saw populations declining, that would have kept some of the players here, because let's face it, quite a few have left because there is a lack of people to do things with, and it gets quite frustrating at times.

Somehow I get the feeling that they want us to spend the money to transfer to other worlds, but that probably isnt going to happen, if they allowed free transfer service to select worlds the problem could be solved without them spending alot of cash to fix it

FFXIV has 2 million registered players, that's not subscribers. Many of the servers on FFXIV are just as bad as they are on FFXI, they don't want to do merges because it's embarassing.

FFXI probably has 10+ million registered players by now, registered players means all players that ever registered for a SE account even if it's long since inactive. Registered players covers beta players, players that played for a week and never came back, rmt etc. It's a worthless number used for PR.

[tumz]

To be fair you only get 0.2's when your skill is really low.

The reason you don't see shouts for Delve 2 is that your dead weight really hurts you. A few months ago before they Fracture HP adjustment, there was no reason not to fill your ally. But now you're penalized for bringing more people. Basically you won't see people shouting much for these zones because they're too hard for pickup groups. This may change in the coming months because the next Login has Yggzi beads. Ra'kazner Skirmish is a flawed event so it doesn't surprise me that interest has been fading. People just get sick of it.

Honestly it just sounds like your server sucks for various reasons. The good players have banded together and retreated from the public eye. Or perhaps they've quit or server hopped. Regardless, certain aspects of the game already are on the cusp of serious congestion and a server merge would only exacerbate that. You're probably better off server hopping to a more populated NA server (SE has made this cheaper and easier to do lately).

Haha, so true. After this conversation I've pretty much given up on the idea of a server merge, which brings me to my next question. What is the highest populated NA Server?

[Vold]

FFXIV has 2 million registered players, that's not subscribers. Many of the servers on FFXIV are just as bad as they are on FFXI, they don't want to do merges because it's embarassing.

FFXI probably has 10+ million registered players by now, registered players means all players that ever registered for a SE account even if it's long since inactive. Registered players covers beta players, players that played for a week and never came back, rmt etc. It's a worthless number used for PR.

Dare I say the server pops over there are even less than FFXI. I don't know if I'm doing it wrong or they severely limit search abilities, but searching each region one at a time and counting it up, I've counted as little as 500 server pop in between major updates. It's kind of sad because the people on the forums for 14 are just either completely oblivious to the truth or they choose to overlook it and quote the 2 mil figure in defense of a game that is failing because SE traded trademark SE gameplay for mainstream easy mode to maximize subscribers. Only problem is they didn't correctly predict that their target audience played that style of game to death over at WoW. Now they got a MMORPG that can't hold the attention of mainstream gamers for long AND it's worthless to the core fans. Ouch?

I see nothing but emptiness in 14 these days, with Mor being by far the most populated with around 80-180 people there. Shrug. I feel bad for whoever at SE that looks at the figures and scratches their head all dumbfounded "....um....how is it FFXI is doing better than FFXIV... uhhhh... <blank stare for hours>"

[tumz]

Played 14 for about a week, really wanted to like it, but it reminded me of a WoW/Rift baby clone with a FF skin. I'd rather deal with low pop numbers in FFXI to be honest.

[predatory]

Dare I say the server pops over there are even less than FFXI. I don't know if I'm doing it wrong or they severely limit search abilities, but searching each region one at a time and counting it up, I've counted as little as 500 server pop in between major updates. It's kind of sad because the people on the forums for 14 are just either completely oblivious to the truth or they choose to overlook it and quote the 2 mil figure in defense of a game that is failing because SE traded trademark SE gameplay for mainstream easy mode to maximize subscribers. Only problem is they didn't correctly predict that their target audience played that style of game to death over at WoW. Now they got a MMORPG that can't hold the attention of mainstream gamers for long AND it's worthless to the core fans. Ouch?

I see nothing but emptiness in 14 these days, with Mor being by far the most populated with around 80-180 people there. Shrug. I feel bad for whoever at SE that looks at the figures and scratches their head all dumbfounded "....um....how is it FFXI is doing better than FFXIV... uhhhh... <blank stare for hours>"

What they did was try to push people over there by making this one like that one, and what happened was it blew up in their faces, what they should have done, (and anybody with even a modicum of intelligence would have done), was other than an expansion they should have left ffxi alone, but being the rocket scientists that they aren't, they decided to reinvent the wheel, and like anyone else in history thats done that they fucking failed. SE i have an idea for you morons, if its not broken, dont fix it

[predatory]

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[Afania]

Last Skirmish 3 shout was 3 days ago at 4 AM my time. As far as Delve 2, that makes sense, but still surprised I don't see a BRD / WHM shout on Delve 2. So on Pheonix, there isn't Skirmish 3 shouts everyday... maybe its different on your server.

[04:27:37] Phoenix.Rhett[Port Jeuno] : «Outer Ra'Kaznar» «Skirmish» 111 @4/6 «White Mage» «Can I have it?» «Thank you.»
*Information provided by Shout Search in Guildwork Premium

Edit: I forgot to call you a fanboy!
Edit 2: Tumz's trolling skill rises 0.2 points.

The moment I saw this, I log on to FFXI immediately to see how active /shout is.

I logged on on 7:45 PM my time, after 8 min @7:53 PM I see 5 different /shout pt going on.




Molion: Celestial Nexus pt full, sorry if you can't join.-----> 1
Hatashy: AA TT Tarutaru Do you need it? @5 need DD or RNG----->2
Samsone: Celestial Nexus Very difficult, need 1 PLD. Seacom 1 item.----->3
Ameliie: VW Voidwrought x12, check seacom.------>4
Renimu: Outer Ra'Kaznar skirmish 111 x3, check seacom.------->5


So yeah, there were 2 Celestial Nexus pt, 1 AA TT, 1 VW and 1 skirmish3 pt going on, in just 8 min.

I guess your trolling skill isn't very high to begin with

Inb4: 1. You don't have time stamp, this can't be happening in 8 min.
2. Shopped.
3. JP /shout doesn't count, <automatically filter out English /shout in SS>
4. All the above /shouter are your mules right?

But yeah, the above SS is legit and real. The time was legit and real too. There are, just that many /shout going on.