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    Quote Originally Posted by Afania View Post
    Or maybe you should get your head out of the sand. I see Skirmish 3 /shout almost everyday. There are more skirmish3 /shout than anything else.

    As for delve2, it's more of the event/community issue than population issue. 90% of the player I know, either just buy win or bead delve2 zone and get clear, then farm plasm in delve1 zones and buy delve2 items with plasm. I know maybe less than 5 groups of ppl in NA community that has the ability to do 6 NM run in delve2 zones, and they don't /shout for people.

    Personally, I avoid /shouting if I'm going to do a delve2 6 NM run(in fact I avoid /shouting for delve1 most of the time too). Unless I'm really, really desperate. And most of the time desperation give me bad result. The experience, skill, gear required for delve2 run is quite exclusive. Unless I know someone with experience, I wouldn't want to waste my time with random. Not just because there'a risk that I can get bad player, but also because I need to spend 30 min to explain everything before a run if that person is new to delve2. So most of the time, I just go with ppl I know.

    If you want to do delve2, get your head out of the sand and look around for other players/close friends to do it with, don't rely on /shout. Even if there's /shout you'd have much better result doing delve2 without /shout pt. Skirmish 3 is there everyday, don't filter /shout and /yell.
    Last Skirmish 3 shout was 3 days ago at 4 AM my time. As far as Delve 2, that makes sense, but still surprised I don't see a BRD / WHM shout on Delve 2. So on Pheonix, there isn't Skirmish 3 shouts everyday... maybe its different on your server.

    [04:27:37] Phoenix.Rhett[Port Jeuno] : «Outer Ra'Kaznar» «Skirmish» 111 @4/6 «White Mage» «Can I have it?» «Thank you.»
    *Information provided by Shout Search in Guildwork Premium

    Edit: I forgot to call you a fanboy!
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    Quote Originally Posted by tumz View Post
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    To be fair you only get 0.2's when your skill is really low.

    The reason you don't see shouts for Delve 2 is that your dead weight really hurts you. A few months ago before they Fracture HP adjustment, there was no reason not to fill your ally. But now you're penalized for bringing more people. Basically you won't see people shouting much for these zones because they're too hard for pickup groups. This may change in the coming months because the next Login has Yggzi beads. Ra'kazner Skirmish is a flawed event so it doesn't surprise me that interest has been fading. People just get sick of it.

    Honestly it just sounds like your server sucks for various reasons. The good players have banded together and retreated from the public eye. Or perhaps they've quit or server hopped. Regardless, certain aspects of the game already are on the cusp of serious congestion and a server merge would only exacerbate that. You're probably better off server hopping to a more populated NA server (SE has made this cheaper and easier to do lately).
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    Quote Originally Posted by detlef View Post
    To be fair you only get 0.2's when your skill is really low.

    The reason you don't see shouts for Delve 2 is that your dead weight really hurts you. A few months ago before they Fracture HP adjustment, there was no reason not to fill your ally. But now you're penalized for bringing more people. Basically you won't see people shouting much for these zones because they're too hard for pickup groups. This may change in the coming months because the next Login has Yggzi beads. Ra'kazner Skirmish is a flawed event so it doesn't surprise me that interest has been fading. People just get sick of it.

    Honestly it just sounds like your server sucks for various reasons. The good players have banded together and retreated from the public eye. Or perhaps they've quit or server hopped. Regardless, certain aspects of the game already are on the cusp of serious congestion and a server merge would only exacerbate that. You're probably better off server hopping to a more populated NA server (SE has made this cheaper and easier to do lately).
    Haha, so true. After this conversation I've pretty much given up on the idea of a server merge, which brings me to my next question. What is the highest populated NA Server?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tumz View Post
    Last Skirmish 3 shout was 3 days ago at 4 AM my time. As far as Delve 2, that makes sense, but still surprised I don't see a BRD / WHM shout on Delve 2. So on Pheonix, there isn't Skirmish 3 shouts everyday... maybe its different on your server.

    [04:27:37] Phoenix.Rhett[Port Jeuno] : «Outer Ra'Kaznar» «Skirmish» 111 @4/6 «White Mage» «Can I have it?» «Thank you.»
    *Information provided by Shout Search in Guildwork Premium

    Edit: I forgot to call you a fanboy!
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    The moment I saw this, I log on to FFXI immediately to see how active /shout is.

    I logged on on 7:45 PM my time, after 8 min @7:53 PM I see 5 different /shout pt going on.




    Molion: Celestial Nexus pt full, sorry if you can't join.-----> 1
    Hatashy: AA TT Tarutaru Do you need it? @5 need DD or RNG----->2
    Samsone: Celestial Nexus Very difficult, need 1 PLD. Seacom 1 item.----->3
    Ameliie: VW Voidwrought x12, check seacom.------>4
    Renimu: Outer Ra'Kaznar skirmish 111 x3, check seacom.------->5


    So yeah, there were 2 Celestial Nexus pt, 1 AA TT, 1 VW and 1 skirmish3 pt going on, in just 8 min.

    I guess your trolling skill isn't very high to begin with

    Inb4: 1. You don't have time stamp, this can't be happening in 8 min.
    2. Shopped.
    3. JP /shout doesn't count, <automatically filter out English /shout in SS>
    4. All the above /shouter are your mules right?

    But yeah, the above SS is legit and real. The time was legit and real too. There are, just that many /shout going on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Afania View Post
    3. JP /shout doesn't count, <automatically filter out English /shout in SS>
    You regularly join shouts you can't read and join groups in general in which you can't communicate well with the people in it? If you don't speak JP and the shout'er isn't using Auto-trans it can be assumed they don't want you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Afania View Post
    The moment I saw this, I log on to FFXI immediately to see how active /shout is.

    I logged on on 7:45 PM my time, after 8 min @7:53 PM I see 5 different /shout pt going on.




    Molion: Celestial Nexus pt full, sorry if you can't join.-----> 1
    Hatashy: AA TT Tarutaru Do you need it? @5 need DD or RNG----->2
    Samsone: Celestial Nexus Very difficult, need 1 PLD. Seacom 1 item.----->3
    Ameliie: VW Voidwrought x12, check seacom.------>4
    Renimu: Outer Ra'Kaznar skirmish 111 x3, check seacom.------->5


    So yeah, there were 2 Celestial Nexus pt, 1 AA TT, 1 VW and 1 skirmish3 pt going on, in just 8 min.

    I guess your trolling skill isn't very high to begin with

    Inb4: 1. You don't have time stamp, this can't be happening in 8 min.
    2. Shopped.
    3. JP /shout doesn't count, <automatically filter out English /shout in SS>
    4. All the above /shouter are your mules right?

    But yeah, the above SS is legit and real. The time was legit and real too. There are, just that many /shout going on.
    How did youget those translations? Every time I try copy and paste into Google Translate I get gibberish. The Japanese characters paste, but the English translation is nonsensical.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Afania View Post
    The moment I saw this, I log on to FFXI immediately to see how active /shout is.

    I logged on on 7:45 PM my time, after 8 min @7:53 PM I see 5 different /shout pt going on.




    Molion: Celestial Nexus pt full, sorry if you can't join.-----> 1
    Hatashy: AA TT Tarutaru Do you need it? @5 need DD or RNG----->2
    Samsone: Celestial Nexus Very difficult, need 1 PLD. Seacom 1 item.----->3
    Ameliie: VW Voidwrought x12, check seacom.------>4
    Renimu: Outer Ra'Kaznar skirmish 111 x3, check seacom.------->5


    So yeah, there were 2 Celestial Nexus pt, 1 AA TT, 1 VW and 1 skirmish3 pt going on, in just 8 min.

    I guess your trolling skill isn't very high to begin with

    Inb4: 1. You don't have time stamp, this can't be happening in 8 min.
    2. Shopped.
    3. JP /shout doesn't count, <automatically filter out English /shout in SS>
    4. All the above /shouter are your mules right?

    But yeah, the above SS is legit and real. The time was legit and real too. There are, just that many /shout going on.
    I am sorry but I have to /facepalm at translating JP to even attend stuff. Learnign english as a non nativ english speaker, was ok, because english and (in my case german) are very similar in terms of letters etc. you seriously cant expect people to learn JP to play this game, pls dont tell me you expect that because the /facepalm would be even bigger and I just lost all respect for you i had ._.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damane View Post
    I am sorry but I have to /facepalm at translating JP to even attend stuff. Learnign english as a non nativ english speaker, was ok, because english and (in my case german) are very similar in terms of letters etc. you seriously cant expect people to learn JP to play this game, pls dont tell me you expect that because the /facepalm would be even bigger and I just lost all respect for you i had ._.

    It is an option for more pt invite, if you want to try it then just try it, or just don't and accept the fact that there are less pt invite option. I'm not a native JP speaker(in fact I'm not even a native English speaker, but that's another story), but I play on JP timezone most of the time, in both FFXI and FFXIV ARR. How else do you expect me to get a party? Bitch on the forum? Sit in town and camp for English /shout? I just make a list of frequently used JP dialogue and try to solve the problem.

    Back in June/July 2013 when people do delve as a LS before skill update because delve was real hard, I was in JPLS clearing delve1 with JP. When I play ARR in Sept 2013, I also did endgame event such as Coil with my JPLS. Those events are 10x harder than skirmish, requires even higher lv of communication. I also occasionally join JP /shout in both XI and XIV. I don't really understand what's so /facepalm about it.

    Anyways, my point is. If the lack of /shout is an issue, there are other ways to solve it. Further more, there WERE English /shout in that SS and apparently that VW /shout is accepting English players, or else he/she wouldn't /shout the NM name in English. You guys all completely freak out about the idea of joining JP pt and ignored the fact that there are also quite a lot of English /shout still exist, just not as many as JP /shout. Tumz complained about the lack of skirmish 3 English /shout, I saw one yesterday around 2am pacific.

    If the idea of "You can try to join JP pt if there are no English /shout" is /facepalm, "English /shout doesn't exist" is certainly a bigger /facepalm. It's not even the fact.
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    Last edited by Afania; 05-10-2014 at 08:43 PM.