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    Quote Originally Posted by Afania View Post
    "No /shout" really isn't player population issue, it's more like the lack of trust in PUG or the lack of specific jobs.

    If you go out and make a delve 6 man pt /shout, I can promise you you can get your 3x DD in a few min. Then you may spend 1hr looking for a SCH and BRD.

    Even if the player population increased by 100% after merge, you'd just see 2 party /shouting for BRD and SCH. When BRD SCH finally pop only 1 party can 6/6.

    FFXIV had more player than FFXI at launch, but back then if I try to queue on a DPS job, I can wait for hours but tank job was instant queue. Because there were more tanks than DPS. It doesn't matter if the server was full with 7000 players, there are just more DPS than tanks.

    FFXI had same issue, everyone and their mother wants to play DD, nobody want to play BRD SCH.

    Another reason is because most of the good players doesn't trust /shout, so they only do stuff with ls/friends.

    I think the main reason why SE wouldn't do server merge is probably because of AA/salvage instance issue. Once I made an AA pt on JP prime time and there were 77 people in zone and nearly 1hr wait time, with server merge it'd be over 140 people and what, 2hr wait time?

    You may not think it's a big deal to wait for that long, I think it is. Personally I can't tolerate it.
    Meh, I have a geared WHM, BRD, and SCH. I'm looking for shouts for new delve zones/skirmish 3 and don't see them at all most nights. Get your head out of the sand and look around, a couple months ago I was constantly in a run with another one lined up after that one ended. A lot of my friends have moved on and NA linkshells are dying off in my Time Zone. I love this game, but I hate soloing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tumz View Post
    Meh, I have a geared WHM, BRD, and SCH. I'm looking for shouts for new delve zones/skirmish 3 and don't see them at all most nights. Get your head out of the sand and look around, a couple months ago I was constantly in a run with another one lined up after that one ended. A lot of my friends have moved on and NA linkshells are dying off in my Time Zone. I love this game, but I hate soloing.
    You don't seem to be able to handle it when someone disagrees with you. Unless SE makes dedicated NA/EU/JP servers, they won't merge servers because JP times will become hellish. Straight up combining 2 servers would make Dynamis, Ark Angels, and Salvage intolerable. And JPs would probably riot, as they would be the most negatively affected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tumz View Post
    Meh, I have a geared WHM, BRD, and SCH. I'm looking for shouts for new delve zones/skirmish 3 and don't see them at all most nights. Get your head out of the sand and look around, a couple months ago I was constantly in a run with another one lined up after that one ended. A lot of my friends have moved on and NA linkshells are dying off in my Time Zone. I love this game, but I hate soloing.
    What is this "I'm looking for shouts" thing I'm constantly hearing? Did Square Enix release some sort of discounted version of the game with the /shout and /yell features disabled? I've had it up to here with people who don't want to go through the hard work of forming their own events, then complain that nobody else will invite them to theirs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarchery View Post
    What is this "I'm looking for shouts" thing I'm constantly hearing? Did Square Enix release some sort of discounted version of the game with the /shout and /yell features disabled? I've had it up to here with people who don't want to go through the hard work of forming their own events, then complain that nobody else will invite them to theirs.

    It does get tiring after awhile doesn't it?
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    Just want to point out that congestion - like what is happening on more populated servers for Salvage - doesn't just cause people to have to wait. It has been causing actual server issues:

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...s-%28Apr.-6%29

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...s-%28Apr.-5%29

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th....-11%29http://

    And then no one can do Salvage.

    I'm not saying merges won't happen. But only SE knows the actual server populations, and they won't merge until it'll solve more problems than it will cause.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarchery View Post
    What is this "I'm looking for shouts" thing I'm constantly hearing? Did Square Enix release some sort of discounted version of the game with the /shout and /yell features disabled? I've had it up to here with people who don't want to go through the hard work of forming their own events, then complain that nobody else will invite them to theirs.
    Lol I said I'm not seeing the Shouts at all... which means population issues, not that I can't jump in one. Yes, I know I can spend an hour or so forming and running the event that I want, but I was just giving an example of low population issues. My gear is good, my jobs are good, and my friend's list is vast... running the event isn't the issue, its the shrinking player base. Reading some of the other comments about salvage instances crashing the servers really concerns me. I'm done commenting on this thread, to sum it up. There is population issues, realize it, or don't, I love this game, but realize it might be time to move on. Either way, any more comments by me will just be trolling the fanboys that hear what they want from this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tumz View Post
    I just took a couple month break and came back to Phoenix and noticed a considerable drop in the amount of american time zone players. (I.E. searches in Port Jueno are below 200 and Adoulin looks considerably less populated.) I've been doing a pickup shout here and there but that has slowed way down as well. I'm not saying that FFXI is dead, but the playerbase is dwindling and Phoenix could use a boost in numbers.

    If merges are going to happen the issue below needs to be addressed


    I realize that the fan boys will rush to say join an active linkshell that does events, but come on guys you have to be noticing what i'm saying here. I'm in an active linkshell and we are seeing membership numbers dropping. The population poses a serious problem and you need a way to boost it and support the increase in population numbers. Without that, the numbers will fall at an increased rate as the population goes lower.

    I'm sure there are several other factors that need to be considered, and if another server beside Phoenix has a healthy american time zone population let me know. I don't mind transferring to it. I mainly play between 9 PM CST and Midnight CST.

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    Usually between 900 and 1200 players on bahamut, and I have a friend on asura and he tells me they have a few more there, (we send messages occasionally asking the other person to do a /sea all), not what it used to be, but it's still playable. I'm not a fanboy (you seem to toss that word around alot), but like you said, find an active shell, or start one would be even better, shout to fill it with the kind of events you want to do, and you will find people of like mind, or you can QQ about needing more people and getting nothing done.

    Oh and btw you can believe I'm not a fanboy, the community reps removed one of my posts that told matsui just what I think of him and his direction for this game, just because someone tells you to find a shell or start a shout or whatever doesn't make them a fanboy it makes them a realist. It's like real life, if you want to get something done you have to make it happen, and yes I'm one of those shouters, and yes I started a linkshell that got a lot of people stuff they wanted to do done, so you may call people like me fanboy, but we call people like you welfare queens, keep that in mind when you're handing out derogatory names
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    Quote Originally Posted by tumz View Post
    There is population issues, realize it, or don't, I love this game, but realize it might be time to move on. Either way, any more comments by me will just be trolling the fanboys that hear what they want from this thread.
    I'm so tired of this too. Someone has an opinion, and they expects nothing but applause and agreement. Those who take up contradictory views are called trolls and fanboys.

    You know, back in the olden days of high server populations, you didn't get shouts for pickup groups either. You either had a linkshell to do this stuff at scheduled times or you didn't do it at all. Server merge talk is bunkum. I see 500-1000 people online whenever I search. May be a low number, but it only takes 6 of those people to do group content, and only 1 to do most stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by predatory View Post
    Usually between 900 and 1200 players on bahamut, and I have a friend on asura and he tells me they have a few more there, (we send messages occasionally asking the other person to do a /sea all), not what it used to be, but it's still playable. I'm not a fanboy (you seem to toss that word around alot), but like you said, find an active shell, or start one would be even better, shout to fill it with the kind of events you want to do, and you will find people of like mind, or you can QQ about needing more people and getting nothing done.

    Oh and btw you can believe I'm not a fanboy, the community reps removed one of my posts that told matsui just what I think of him and his direction for this game, just because someone tells you to find a shell or start a shout or whatever doesn't make them a fanboy it makes them a realist. It's like real life, if you want to get something done you have to make it happen, and yes I'm one of those shouters, and yes I started a linkshell that got a lot of people stuff they wanted to do done, so you may call people like me fanboy, but we call people like you welfare queens, keep that in mind when you're handing out derogatory names
    you are a hypocrite, you just moaned about population issues on the nyzul isle topic, because of lamp floors... well guess what start shouting for nyzul isle then if you think the population is so healthy for you and lamps are an issue for you, since you are giving the same advice to tumz!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damane View Post
    you are a hypocrite, you just moaned about population issues on the nyzul isle topic, because of lamp floors... well guess what start shouting for nyzul isle then if you think the population is so healthy for you and lamps are an issue for you, since you are giving the same advice to tumz!
    Actually I started that thread so the assclown that started this thread might get a dev response. I could give a shit less about Nyzule Isle but apparently the guy that wrote the thread I linked to thought it was important so I told him I'd start a thread for him and I did, but here let me refresh your memory

    Quote Originally Posted by predatory View Post
    And, well, yup, you'll probably get the same amount of attention from the devs that you would if you walked into any business and spouted off like that, here let me start a thread for you and maybe we can get a dev response
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