I suppose it is a catch 22, FFXI can't support more players, and less shouts / parties means more folks jump ship. I enjoy the 18 man runs and getting good groups together to run the skirmish 3. With lack of players, this become harder and harder to do. Waiting to do salvage, AA fights, and Dynamis overcrowding isn't a big deal. Everyone is sick of running them, and when I'm forced to either party or go do DC mobs is very welcome in comparison. Soloing Dynamis for 160 days, and/or Salvage is my idea of a very slow painful death... I'm going to go play some Diablo 3 because this conversation just depressed me lol.