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    Player Dragomair's Avatar
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    DPS: 902 DMG:43 Delay:286 [Element: Fire]+12 Throwing skill +242 Additional effect: Blind
    LV 99 THF NIN BLU DNC

    And still no weaponskills?
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    This is circular logic though, isn't it?

    We don't have throwing WS because throwing is not a main source of attack for battles? (Actually I think we were either told or implied at some point within the last few years that it had to do with the way Shuriken and Boomerangs are coded, but I may be wrong)

    But throwing isn't a main source of attack for battles because our throwing weapons are weak (the effective delay on them was greatly reduced and I'm still thankful for that, very much so) AND because... we don't have Throwing based Weaponskills. It would work very similarly tactically to NIN/RNG with a gun fighting a 'link' or enemy summoned by a boss rather than being in range, then using the WS from range on the boss. Except, you know... with something Ninjas have A+ skill in.

    Please tell me again that it is some technical limitation, I'd hate to think that right now the logic is 'we aren't updating something you don't use (because we don't update it), because you don't use it enough'.
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    I don't know I really think it's just because we don't use it enough, which is of course because there be no weaponskill...which is because we don't use it enough...which is because there's no weaponskill...which is because we don't use it enough....which is because...there's...no...weaponskill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blah View Post
    But...what...would...be...the...point...with...no.......weaponskill?
    The possibilities are out there; just gonna throw out a random suggestion I made in another thread. DNC, SAM, and NIN have skill chain bonus traits iirc. NIN is the only one whom cannot self sc; unless they sub Sam. DNC has wild flourish and Sam has...well...everything, lol. Does not make much sense when you consider NIN's "A" grade ninjustu skills and magic/skillchain bonus traits.

    Lets say that the shuriken attack was an instant JA on a timer; the effects of the attack sets up the mob for a SC; akin to kozen-ittai, but damaging. The attack also increases the power of your next ninjustu elemental spell and ws damage. Shuriken attack > blade:whatever > SC darkness > Futae > hyoton. Just a random thought.

    Edit: I see what you are saying though; gonna be interesting to see what they come up with.
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    Well I'd rather they bite the bullet and give us throwing weaponskills but if they are trying to find a way for ninja (and perhaps some other jobs) to self skillchain I'm for that too. I'd also like to know why they let all jobs use bronze bullets but no gun, what's up with that eh? Gonna let us throw bullets?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blah View Post
    Well I'd rather they bite the bullet and give us throwing weaponskills but if they are trying to find a way for ninja (and perhaps some other jobs) to self skillchain I'm for that too. I'd also like to know why they let all jobs use bronze bullets but no gun, what's up with that eh? Gonna let us throw bullets?
    Lmao, no clue; that is quite strange "Shrugs"
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    An all jobs gun was added to the game a few updates ago. It comes from a promo code in the XI Years Vana'diel Tribune Chronicles book. The gun is the Decazoom Mk-XI. By the description in the book, it's able to be used as a Soul Plate camera as well (forget the name of those things). The book also comes with a code for an all jobs polearm that resembles a giant quill pin.
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    Well that's just great, let me guess there's no way to get it except thru the code which is now expired, right?
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    Player Malithar's Avatar
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    Doubt the code is expired, as the book only came out 2-3 months ago. However, it's only available in Japan. I don't know off hand if Amazon.jp will ship internationally or if there are any restrictions on where they'll ship to. It'll be expensive for a book that you prolly can't read, and some vanity items though.
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    When you think about it, all ws have REM attached to them iirc. What would become of blade: Hi and the aftermath? They may have to add REM shurikens to make a throwing ws serviceable.

    Also, I am on board for a throwing ws, but the more I ponder about the issue; the more I doubt it would work (It could though if there were REM shurikens), how would a throwing ws work? Through ToM/REM? Idk.....a throwing ws would be cool though^^

    Imo, we need REM shurikens for a throwing ws to work, because they will take tp away from your katana weaponskills/REM aftermath effects. Personally, I am stumped regarding a throwing ws, despite advocating it.
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