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    the ability to land a hit doesn't necessarily equate to the ability to take one, all I'm saying. Blm can do a ton of damage, if they are X does that mean we let them tank? Ranger? you see my point, I only spoke of dark because there are 20 jobs in the game, X has to be playing one of them.
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    Blm should be plenty durable; mages in this game are notoriously stronger than melees when it comes to taking a punch. That is, assuming the mage isn't a total tard. I see your point in theory, but honestly any well geared player is going to have a PDT set and take less damage than any Y-level player no matter what job they're on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glamdring View Post
    the ability to land a hit doesn't necessarily equate to the ability to take one, all I'm saying. Blm can do a ton of damage, if they are X does that mean we let them tank?
    I tanked on blm all the time. Between capped pdt/mdt, phalanx, stoneskin, blink, manawall, convert, stun, etc, i had no trouble surviving on blm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    Blm should be plenty durable; mages in this game are notoriously stronger than melees when it comes to taking a punch. That is, assuming the mage isn't a total tard. I see your point in theory, but honestly any well geared player is going to have a PDT set and take less damage than any Y-level player no matter what job they're on.
    For further clarification about a mage's ability to take hits, specifically BLM since that was the job mentioned (assuming /RDM):

    Mana Wall, Convert, Stoneskin, Phalanx (lol), Blink, Aquaveil, Stun, Gravity, Bind, Sleep, Sleep II, Sleepga, Sleepga II (all sleeps assume no DoTs on the mob), Manafont, easily achievable -50% PDT, easily achievable -50% MDT, and if all of that fails, there's still Enmity Douse to fall back on. Assuming Abyssea, there's also plenty of temp items for a quick heal in a pinch, as well as Soothing Pyxides to constantly renew the timers on all the listed JA's, which means it's possible to have all these tools ready most of the time. And yes, I listed Convert as a defensive tool.

    Obviously, not every mage will have all of these tools at their disposal, but a good chunk of them are universal, also, some of the spells listed may not be applicable to certain mobs. The PDT/MDT sets can and are often used as an idle set for most smart mages (likely sprinkled with Refresh gear and possibly Movement speed gear) so the chances of having it equipped during that first OSHI moment are much higher, whereas a DD will likely not change into it until after they've pulled hate.

    Most (good) melee's will only have the tools of... a PDT set, perhaps shadows (superior to blink but still not equal to the cumulative effect of everything else mages have), and perhaps a JA (Counterstance, Perfect Counter, Super Jump, some two-hours) and perhaps a Stun WS if they have TP. Quite a big difference there.
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    While out-side Abyssea content could focus on New End-game Events and new Armors/Weapons/upgrades/Etc, Back to the good old days of Dragging along 17 other people who want to lot the same stuff as you, and spending 2 years on the same event simply because the one guy hasn't gotten the 0.005% Drop of that 1 NM. you know, Challenge!

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    when they going to lower level requirement to level 10? its hard to level up from 10-30 cant find parties in valkrum dunes
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    Last edited by hordecore; 04-16-2011 at 03:23 AM.

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    and no parties in qufim island nor kazam so yeah still waiting on lowering the level requirement
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    hard to make pts??? abyssea should of been 75 , since everything is abyssea only now it causes lots of problems

    but the other issue with that is you can't go back, should never been entery 30, in my view was a very bad idea.

    how can you have likes already, do you have a different account??????
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    Spending Gil = Game balance, next question please tia
    Quote Originally Posted by Babekeke View Post
    They're reading and agreeing that these are very good ideas.... to be implemented to rune fencer.

    Just like any good suggestions in the RDM thread get applied to SCH.

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    you can like your own posts with the same account i like them all :P
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    i don't .....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    Spending Gil = Game balance, next question please tia
    Quote Originally Posted by Babekeke View Post
    They're reading and agreeing that these are very good ideas.... to be implemented to rune fencer.

    Just like any good suggestions in the RDM thread get applied to SCH.

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    poor tarutaru
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