Subjob question

[Jesterking]

/SAM has a couple situational uses, breaking Nyzul/trial weapons (wild flourish can only give you a lv2 chain with shadowstitch, while you can self darkness with sekkanoki) and I found some good use in some assaults (could practically solo saving private ryaaf as dnc75/sam were it not for the minimum entrants.)

Don't know how you'll self-Dark without either of those WSs beforehand.

[taruofdoom]

i only use /nin if i have to... i love using /sam the conserve/store tp bonus, meditate, sekanoki, i use macros with third eye and utsusemi that work with whichever sub i use. it really depends on what role you are playing if you are tanking or taking alot of magic or crit dmg then yes /nin is pretty much required. if just fighting normal mobs other subs can be more useful and less expensive on the tools... i say screw tools and just saber dance, haste/drain samba III and skillchain away.

[Lordscyon]

Well /nin used too be the best idea but Shadows too expensive now.
If no money the rest of the subjobs is perfect! Don't forget reraise!

[FrankReynolds]

Also magic defense bonus II

[MiriOhki]

Well, by trial I was thinking of the Magian WS-based dagger trials. But yeah, forgot you need PyrKleos to selfdark. You can get Distortion/Fragmentation on much more viable WSs than Shadowstitch however (Evisceration into Dancing Edge or Shark Bite respectively).