SMN Atmas

[Strife]

{Help me out!} what are the best atma combos for SMN?
I recently got back to the game and am missing a lot of atma this is something I'm looking to redress so I'd like to know what're the must haves & best combos for SMN. I guessing: (replacing an atma with MM if refresh is needed)

For MAB; Ultimate, Hell's guardian (lol how may people actually have this?), Beyond/ other MAB atmas or is it better to stack up on/ mix elemental attack + atmas?

For PC: RR, Sanguine Scythe (for crit hit dmg) & Stout Arm for att & str or a dex atma or scorp queen's for more crit hit rate?

& for solo tanking: 3x -DT atma (-30%?) or Mounted Champion & other regen atmas or what other combinations work best? Someone told me you could get your avatar with their native -DT to something crazy like -90% but they couldn't remember if this was -DT or -MDT the latter sounds more likely to me.

[Dallas]

Solo/duo tanking: Ducal guard + Mounted Champion + ???

If you are duoing, only one player needs to tank, the other can DD. The DD's pet will die but the player will be safe to resummon.

[radicaldreamer]

MAB atmas don't work for the avatars do they? Just for yourself right? I dunno if I've seen any pet enhancing atma. :-( Dallas' idea is a pretty good one though, just boost your def and refresh so you stay alive if smn dies.

[jeffanddane]

all atmas extend to your pets !

[Papesse]

MAB : Ultimate, Minikin/Hell's Guardian and Beyond/Any "Major" Elemental Dmg Atma if you have merited something else than Heavenly Strike.
PC : Razed Ruins, Voracious Violet and Gnarled Horn (I personally prefer Harvester)
Solo : Ducal Guard, Mounted Champion (if you fight a VERY strong/difficult NM)/Savior (I'm a lucky one lol and it's a great atma for Smn)/Voracious Violet/Beyond and Razed Ruins/Minikin depending on your preferances.

The Critical hit DMG from Sanguine Scythe or the Attack from Stout Arms don't add much power to Predator Claw.

[Infidi]

I use for MAB:Beyond(don't have ultimate) Minkin and Apoc(Auto RR3 and triple attack on avatar) when I'm duoing.
PC: RR MM and Apoc. From my experience if you dont have alot of Magic attack bonus gear RR alone does a crap ton more damage then Magic BPs. I mainly just use RR MM(For refresh mainly) and Apoc for 'zombie killing' an NM. lol Plus its always good so you dont gotta worry about /whm and casting RR1 over and over. :P

[Dallas]

Dallas' idea is a pretty good one though, just boost your def and refresh so you stay alive if smn dies.

All atma works on pets. My suggestion is pretty much standard now. Savior is better than Mounted Champion, but I'm not there yet.

In case you missed the hubbub, Ducal Guard was originally released with -50% DT on a successful guard. Avatars already had this ability, and DG made avatars immune to physical attacks.

Then it was "fixed with haste," and avatars no longer get more than 87.5% PDT. It's still crazy powerful, as our avatars last 4 times as long as before. That's where Mounted Champion comes into play. 20 regen = 400 hp/minute. Avatars can absorb 3200 damage a minute with these two atma alone. Some avatars get healing pacts, so this number climbs even higher.

Avatars are also near immune to the element they are strong against. Ramuh > water damage, for example. If an NM has a single element, the combo above means the strong avatar will likely never die. Certain painful NMs (namely Tunga) immediately became trivial.

The weakness of this build is poison/bio/death. Even so, the poison takes long enough to kill the avatar that you can resummon with ease.

If you can't kite with these two atma, you can't kite it. The downside is you will kill much slower than other solo jobs that don't need defensive atma.

[Zad]

I was thinking about getting savior. All you have to do is do every quest/dom op, including those quest from sapper (bastion)?

[Crisco]

I was thinking about getting savior. All you have to do is do every quest/dom op, including those quest from sapper (bastion)?

'All you have to do' ... lol. Anyway, I believe you're correct; complete all quests in all abyssea zones (I'm unsure about dom/resistance, but I would assume those as well).

To the OP, Dallas and Papesse pretty much nailed it on the head; not much more to say there. Good luck!

[Zad]

Lol yea..its gonna be awhile