A few changes I would like to see.

[bungiefanNA]

It's not like you own the game anyway, with it being an online-only game. There is no offline mode. So what's the problem with them switching to an online-only distribution model except for the console releases that require a disc?

[Mirage]

The game can be bought directly from SE already. You can pay with debit-visa cards. The game you get on their online store is download-only. Getting it through POL would also be download-only.

[Olor]

You must think credit is a viable system too?

I don't have a credit card.... I personally think it's a mug's game. Like the poster above said, if you want physical proof you own the item that you download - burn it on to a CD. Nevermind that a HARD DRIVE is also a PHYSICAL ITEM. If you have it on your hard drive - you HAVE A PHYSICAL ITEM.

Close, but the only unique thing NA got was Ultimate Collection for Xbox. All six of the JP 360 players (and however many EU players) could get the add-on disc alone, though.

Nope. Here is the stand alone disc for XBOX. Though personally I think it would be silly to buy that, since you can just have the whole game on one disc instead - and the full edition comes with the beret and shirt...

http://www.amazon.com/Final-Fantasy-.../dp/B00B23MO9Y

Tip for you grimlock - buy the xbox disc - use the code on your account. Then download the files from fan back ups for your computer. Then you have the game "on disc"

[Ziyyigo-Tipyigo]

Though personally I think it would be silly to buy that, since you can just have the whole game on one disc instead

Only if you live in North America which is what I said...

[Olor]

Only if you live in North America which is what I said...

Oh I thought you were saying the opposite! Sorry!

[Mirage]

Well, what do you want to argue? No one disagrees with you about the spawn points and dynamis congestion issues, so no one is going to put forth an argument about that. #4 would be nice but the developers have already told us "nope, we can't do that, too hard/too much work".

That only leaves point 3, which most of us seem to find to be a non-issue, because, as stated, you can pay for the expansion by a number of different payment options, where charging a debit card (not credit, which you don't like to use) is one of the options. You can even use SE's own store, where you can pay with a debit visa like you can anywhere else that takes visa. What you think about credit purchases isn't really relevant, because you don't need to use credit to pay for the game.

I know you said you wanted to buy things from within POL, but I think that is an unrealistic request, considering every change SE has made to billing and account management the last few years have all moved *away* from using POL, and instead had us use their account management website. It seems that SE is as fed up with POL as most users are, and just want to keep all things billing and purchase related out of it as much they can.

[Lithera]

Concerning POL used to be the site you would go to for info on how to beat bosses for FFIX when it first came out it does seem that they're wanting to move away from it. The more pop areas for the mini versions of some aby nms would have been better back when Abby still had more foot traffic than it does currently. Though if they make us go back into Abby for when/if we get emperian reforge then yes it would be nice. The only Abby nm I would like to see gain two ??? would be fistule. Even on non peak days and hours I have found bsts camping it when I get in a mood to try and get my items for my club.

[bungiefanNA]

It's becoming clear, why my LS and friends do not post here.

Grim~

You haven't given anything to try to debate againt. You say we don't understand someone's limitations, but you make no attempt to define the limitations or give us anything to understand. Also, a debate is more productive than an argument, but either way, you don't give any indication as to what you qould require to be "real".

You can buy an expansion code direct from SE through the SquareEnix Account Management page. Providing the data for the expansion is up to you. They sell downloads of the data through several sources, and they sell the codes by themselves because they know people can get used install discs, or torrent the expansion installer. A physical copy is unnecessary at this point, and you can make your own physical copy any time you like if you absolutely need one.

There's not much to discuss on the other suggestions. They've been made before, are not generally disliked, and are somewhat uninteresting. What is interesting is wondering why someone would absolutely require a physical copy made from a specific source, when every computer has the capability to make one on demand. Data distribution has already changed, like 3D printers becoming cheaper and more capable will change physical product production and distribution. High capacity drives and high speed internet connections are making optical media obsolete for general purposes.

Heck, I can provide a PC Adoulin disc if that's all you want. It won't be fancy, just a handwritten label, but it will be a physical copy.

[Ziyyigo-Tipyigo]

The specific limitations arent important

Yes, they are. If the current system has failings, it's better to actually address those failings than to abandon the current system entirely, especially if/when the current system works for the vast majority of customers (i.e. the cost-benefit ratio of what you're proposing is laughable).

From things as having an old computer that cant run steam

http://store.na.square-enix.com/stor...rentCategoryID.
http://www.amazon.com/Final-Fantasy-...P1A/ref=sr_1_1

that cannot update IE or wont work at all if you do.

http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/pol...ews21916.shtml
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/
https://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/browser/

"I donot chose to support the companies in which they are using to distrubute their product." If they want people like me or my friends who dont want to fund evil corperations to buy these products, offer us the software directly.

Who would you be buying the disc from and how are they less evil than the three options available? Even after considering the working conditions in their warehouses I still find Amazon to be less evil than all the retail options near me that would carry such an esoteric game disc.

offer us the software directly.

http://store.na.square-enix.com/stor...rentCategoryID.

Then why is it I am not seeing people going "well I like this idea here" or "thats a great idea!"

Because you're ignoring the talley of the number of times your original post has been "Liked?"

And dont ask me to name them off, or all you are get is a bunch of tech support links.

Please? That would at least be progress.

[Mirage]

Don't you get it, Ziyyigo? He's not interested in assistance with the technical issues he might be having. He's interested in Square Enix changing a large portion of their content distribution so that he won't have to use his head.

Btw you'll be safe with using Google Chrome. They specifically state that they aren't evil.