Job points = another form of merit points?

[Rifaran]

this is a terrible idea for it to not be able to get job points in aby, now it will mean even less people with lv 99 jobs on certain jobs. so now instead of someone who could have lvled up a dd,healer,tank or support or such job, they won't because they won't be able to get exp parties in aby, because no one will want to do them because you don't get job points there. as usual Square Enix takes 1 step forward and 5000 steps backwards..........

[Peepiopi]

this is a terrible idea for it to not be able to get job points in aby, now it will mean even less people with lv 99 jobs on certain jobs. so now instead of someone who could have lvled up a dd,healer,tank or support or such job, they won't because they won't be able to get exp parties in aby, because no one will want to do them because you don't get job points there. as usual Square Enix takes 1 step forward and 5000 steps backwards..........

I don't know.. It's not like aby parties are the only way to get experience these days. Sure they're the fastest and the easiest (you can literally semi-afk to 99 while other people do the work). But Trusts + FoV + SoE is really good exp for soloing in all sorts of different locations, and there are still GoV book burns and level sync for folks that want the fast exp. So assuming this kills Aby worm parties (which it might, or might not.. but it will certainly slow them down) then there are still plenty of options for people.

Also, I'm not really seeing how the fact that you can't get job points from Aby burns will have any influence on peoples' job selections.

What exactly is less "mind numbing" about killing EXP mobs in Adoulin than killing EXP mobs in Abyssea?

Hey, some people probably have a blast in aby worm parties, but for me it's near vomit inducing. In Adoulin areas, not only do you get a bunch of bonuses from Ionis for skillups and stuff, there are also reives, and wildskeeper reives updates in the zones. So there are more dynamic and fun things to do there, rather than running around and killing worms.

I doubt thats where all the 99s are going to run to for farming Job points, since I predict that lvl 95+ GoV camps are going to be more of a faster option for exp burners (Kuftal, Boyahda, Bostaneau Oiblette, etc..). But in my opinion, just about anything in the game is more fun than worm parties.

[Ravenmore]

I really hope every one of the people that have been begging to have this brought back are stuck on their mage jobs cause they can't get invites on their DDs other then mnk that would be pure justice. The brds and healers are not going to put up with less then perfect parties, since they can drop and get another invite in 5 mins or less. Even worse it could turn out to be trust NPC hell every where with the jobs that didn't get invited to the dance. In the true SE spirit they took a wet dream and some how messed it up so hard.

[saevel]

Currently there aren't nearly enough camps for a traditional system. None of the newer zones were designed around 6-man parties so they don't have centrally located fast repops and instead are spread out with sparse mobs sprinkled around. This will make everyone concentrate in the handful of viable area's and it'll be bird merit camp all over again.

[Aldersyde]

I really hope every one of the people that have been begging to have this brought back are stuck on their mage jobs cause they can't get invites on their DDs other then mnk that would be pure justice. The brds and healers are not going to put up with less then perfect parties, since they can drop and get another invite in 5 mins or less. Even worse it could turn out to be trust NPC hell every where with the jobs that didn't get invited to the dance. In the true SE spirit they took a wet dream and some how messed it up so hard.

The people who are championing this as some kind six-man party resurgence don't seem to realize is that once the brds and whms are capped on JP, they aren't going to continue to party for others simply out of the goodness of their hearts. After the initial rush to cap JP, its actually going to be harder to build parties with fewer and fewer healers and brds in the pool.

The lack of some kind of JP transfer is just complete insanity.

I totally agree you, with the mindset that the playerbase has with "optimal setup or gtfo" Adoulin areas are going to be a complete mess with parties and trust soloers competing with each other over mobs. I do hope everyone trumpeting the "right on, can't get the points in Abyssea-high five!" enjoys the "healthy competition" that is going to exist for trash mobs for next past two months or so.

[Krashport]

My question is; Can we work/accumulate them both at the same time or do we have to switch between Merit points and Job points?

[Dragoy]

Indeed, it seems a bit unfortunate to me that they will only come off of monsters at level 96 or higher.

I generally do older content still, Salvage and the likes, and would have not minded if I could have gained a tiny bit towards those points from there.

If only players could enjoy this content no matter what their play-style is like...

One piece of content we will be implementing is “job points,” a system to enhance your jobs further that proved popular in the survey we held recently. It’ll be possible to obtain these in your traditional leveling parties or even solo, so regardless of what kind of player you are, you’ll be able to enjoy this content.

Oh. Well crud!

I guess I'm just not that kind of a player. True enough, I can probably pick one of the few monsters over that level in the original areas, and have at it. Will I want to go defeat monsters like that with the only purpose being job points, or will I rather use that time gallivanting in Salvage, Dynamis, Campaign, or somewhere else? Probably.

Yes, I only mentioned areas that existed before Adōulin, since I still don't have that expansion. So yeah, I guess I'm not part of the community that is being talked about in the quote (not that I had the opportunity to participate in the survey that was mentioned either, or at least I don't think the one 'we' got had that kind of a question in it, but that is what it is).

What I'm trying to say, I maybe guess, is that, while I don't like the most popular levelUP methods (big Abyssea/Grounds of Valor groups), I do think it seems a bit too restricted. I never really complained though. It was easy enough for me to simply avoid such 'parties' and level up how I chose to level up.

I do like to be able to multi-task. It does seem rather difficult to come up with another reason to go play with, say, the skeletons in the Labyrinth of Onzozo.

Nevertheless, I do think it's cool that they finally decided to do something like this. I have been sort of waiting for them to go fer it, as it seemed something was missing from the character development. It's not that I feel completely excluded, either.

It does feel like something that I should be able to have more options to go with. For. Over.


Oh well. I guess I can just go fishing. After seeing the huge arrows on the screen, however, I've been a bit scared of it, while I was positively giddy before about them finally revamping the system. Now, scared...


Meh, just some thoughts~

[Feary]

do you play on ps2?

[AyinDygra]

They should implement RoE objectives that can be fulfilled by doing each job's job, to get job points, regardless of what content a person is doing.

I know I'll most likely just end up solo'ing these things, while fighting over the few spawns of monsters in Ulbuka areas that are convenient to get to. I'll probably get fed up with the competition and go back to my mog house, then log out most nights, until the rush for everyone's main job's job points is over. Doesn't sound like a very fun future for me, but it is what it is.

[Dragoy]

Feary,

Assuming you're asking me, or everyone in general, I do not. They actually never released FFXI for the PS2 around here, and even if they did, I'm not sure if the on-line services are available (I don't remember any friends even who would have their PS2 connected to the internet).
I had to check if my slim and silver PS2 even has a port for its NIC, as I never paid any attention to the thought of having it connected to anything. Didn't go as far as to plug anything into it, however. :E

Had I the option, I would at most use the PS2 for 'dual-boxing'. I can not imagine myself full-timing it.


Furthermore, if from that you're going for 'why not get access to Adōulin then', well, I just don't see anything attractive enough for me around there. I may consider getting it when/if the story is more finished, or if they reduce the monthly fee (or/when there is a cheap-o release of it).

Maybe.