Job points = another form of merit points?

[Eldrin]

i really really hope that this is restricted from abyssea.

i would really hate this if we were able to just spam exp/points in abyssea pts.

i would really like to have 6man parties around vanadiel. we would put up /seacoms and turn on our party flags again.

oh how i would love to pull a 500 limit chain again, so sososososososo badly.

the playerbase would be shocked, all the hovering players who wasnt sure about returning and left because of abyssea xp would rise from the dead. it would be a whole new game.

I very much agree with this. Specifically the Abyssea restriction, party, and chains. I have played off and on since launch, and have heard multiple people, friends and strangers, make the comment that "Abyssea Killed FFXI". I thought that they were making reference to the 99 level limit. I recently reached 99 on my third job, and this time, for the first time, I did a Abyssea grind from 75 - 99. I now see what they were referring too. I will only be doing that on jobs I don't like much lol. It is a fast way to level, but not much fun...at all...like 0...feels dirty...like cheating lol.

My fear being that 30,000 points will just not take a lot of time to grind out. My small 5 man party hit 180k/hr with just one BLM in sparks gear doing the nuking. I can only imagine what a full party/alliance would be making per hour.

(30,000 x 30 = 900,000)/180,000 = 6 hours. That is a time frame that I personally think is too short. But, hey, some people just want to customize, some want to just min/max, and some like to gind. I like all three. But, I'm pretty sure I am not the norm.

[Siviard]

I really like this idea from SE. However, I will reserve final judgment on the system until after it's implementation.

[MDenham]

I very much agree with this. Specifically the Abyssea restriction, party, and chains. I have played off and on since launch, and have heard multiple people, friends and strangers, make the comment that "Abyssea Killed FFXI". I thought that they were making reference to the 99 level limit. I recently reached 99 on my third job, and this time, for the first time, I did a Abyssea grind from 75 - 99. I now see what they were referring too. I will only be doing that on jobs I don't like much lol. It is a fast way to level, but not much fun...at all...like 0...feels dirty...like cheating lol.

My fear being that 30,000 points will just not take a lot of time to grind out. My small 5 man party hit 180k/hr with just one BLM in sparks gear doing the nuking. I can only imagine what a full party/alliance would be making per hour.

(30,000 x 30 = 900,000)/180,000 = 6 hours. That is a time frame that I personally think is too short. But, hey, some people just want to customize, some want to just min/max, and some like to gind. I like all three. But, I'm pretty sure I am not the norm.

I will direct you to the image in the first post.

You can hold up to two hundred job points on any given job at a time based on that image. So that's 6,000,000 capacity points needed before you have to go dump job points.

As far as chains... Uh. Solo chain 300+ (or, rather, "solo" because I'm pretty sure it was done with Trust NPCs) in Rala Waterways is a thing. The problem with taking a full EXP party at this point is slowing down kills to avoid getting slapped down by the respawn rate, which is admittedly very fast in Seekers areas, but it's still possible to run into it repeatedly.

[detlef]

i really really hope that this is restricted from abyssea.

Disagree completely. Allow Abyssea, but also bring back double XP. This would give everybody more options.

Also, since so much of the game currently revolves around XP, please raise the merit point limit above 30.

[Sasaraixx]

Disagree completely. Allow Abyssea, but also bring back double XP. This would give everybody more options.

Also, since so much of the game currently revolves around XP, please raise the merit point limit above 30.

Well, the dev post on the JP forum today just confirmed that you will not be able to obtain capacity points in Abyssea. There goes that dream then.

I think it is a good move actually. I really have not played much at all the last few months, but this is the kind of thing that would get me to log in someone frequently. You can do it alone, at your own pace and *hopefully* enhance your favorite jobs by a noticeable degree.

[Apie]

So wait, if the Berserk bonus is 3 attack, with 30 upgrades we are looking at Attack +90 when Berserk is used...not bad.

[Hercule]

Now, my curiosity would like to know what will be the upgrade for Last Resort ^^

[Cabalabob]

i really really hope that this is restricted from abyssea.

i would really hate this if we were able to just spam exp/points in abyssea pts.

i would really like to have 6man parties around vanadiel. we would put up /seacoms and turn on our party flags again.

oh how i would love to pull a 500 limit chain again, so sososososososo badly.

the playerbase would be shocked, all the hovering players who wasnt sure about returning and left because of abyssea xp would rise from the dead. it would be a whole new game.

Wouldn't get me to party more, frankly all I've been doing lately is playing the game solo, doing quests to get trust npc's, soloing dyna and limbus on SMN cause I can, doing GoV pages with my trust NPC's. And just by doing that and having a bunch of RoE active I've been making a ton of exp just by doing what I'd normally be doing, I've made around 20 merit points so far. I really don't see the need to make grind parties, in or out of abyssea, when you can just play the game and get exp now.

[Ziyyigo-Tipyigo]

Not that Trust hasn't thoroughly killed the mechanic already, but it sounds like you won't accrue the new points while under Level Sync.

[bungiefanNA]

Not that Trust hasn't thoroughly killed the mechanic already, but it sounds like you won't accrue the new points while under Level Sync.

How does it sound like that. They say you need one job at 99 with a Limit Breaker to unlock the points. It seems that leveling any job after getting that Job Breaker item gives you the points, so you can earn them on the way to 99 with a new job. It's a reward for maxing one job out. You may not be able to spend the points until level 99, but you can rack up a bunch on the way there.