Job points = another form of merit points?

[Feary]

I would really hate if this was restricted from abyssea, I don't want to solo for ages on some jobs just because it's more efficient than grouping, or go through the hassle of trying to drag someone else's "would be more efficient soloing" jobs down if I'm on one that's not, meh.

i guess you have a perspective that because your main is bst that you will have to solo because you wont get invite.

personally, charm solo was the best thing about bst and has been gone for a very long time. i dont mind it, i also dont mind playing my other jobs when i didnt want to solo on bst.

honestly, making a party and getting bst friends together wont be a bad thing.

i know if this is allowed in abyssea, soloing will be more efficient than grouping. Playerbase has learned how to farm Sparks solo, and have been doing so for months now. it would not be difficult to just go switch to thier gear job and not need to invite anyone because abyssea is so easy to get exp.

if you have to " drag " someone to help you or anyone you know wouldnt include you because of your job/efficiency. then you need better friends.

I very much agree with this. Specifically the Abyssea restriction, party, and chains. I have played off and on since launch, and have heard multiple people, friends and strangers, make the comment that "Abyssea Killed FFXI". I thought that they were making reference to the 99 level limit. I recently reached 99 on my third job, and this time, for the first time, I did a Abyssea grind from 75 - 99. I now see what they were referring too. I will only be doing that on jobs I don't like much lol. It is a fast way to level, but not much fun...at all...like 0...feels dirty...like cheating lol.

My fear being that 30,000 points will just not take a lot of time to grind out. My small 5 man party hit 180k/hr with just one BLM in sparks gear doing the nuking. I can only imagine what a full party/alliance would be making per hour.

(30,000 x 30 = 900,000)/180,000 = 6 hours. That is a time frame that I personally think is too short. But, hey, some people just want to customize, some want to just min/max, and some like to gind. I like all three. But, I'm pretty sure I am not the norm.

honestly, i think 6 hours of parting a necessary evil. Playerbase always will party this much, the only different is how far they get in this time and slowing down progession is a good thing.

we arent getting higher than 99 and this job point system is the way to break that. we got ilvl gear now we get ilvled abilities. this is content ppl will do, why not make it with some difficulty.

i often find myself in situations where content is not enough, the difficulty is mediocre at most and time it takes me to complete it is no small that i often become bored.
which pushes me to play other jobs. i can use this system to better favorite jobs and still have more to do a month two 3 later.

I like not knowing where the end to this is. i like not knowing if i will get what i need done. it allows to me to appreciate my past progress.

most content and especially abyssea i can just go in for 90 mins or less and cap my merits/exp. done. 5 days after work and never exp again.

i can mindlessly play my job(s) for the next few months and have it get somewhere without feeling done. By the time the next update comes around the majority of the playerbase has burned throught the entire job system and afk in jueno.

I will direct you to the image in the first post.

You can hold up to two hundred job points on any given job at a time based on that image. So that's 6,000,000 capacity points needed before you have to go dump job points.

As far as chains... Uh. Solo chain 300+ (or, rather, "solo" because I'm pretty sure it was done with Trust NPCs) in Rala Waterways is a thing. The problem with taking a full EXP party at this point is slowing down kills to avoid getting slapped down by the respawn rate, which is admittedly very fast in Seekers areas, but it's still possible to run into it repeatedly.

why would you want to solo? i mean nothing wrong with coming home and not having time to do a party so you go do what you can with your time.

however why would you not get a party together if you had the time. Play with people.

respawn rates ? lol most mobs that are level 99+ have the right respawn rates. im sure it wouldnt be an issue.

Disagree completely. Allow Abyssea, but also bring back double XP. This would give everybody more options.

Also, since so much of the game currently revolves around XP, please raise the merit point limit above 30.

Double exp is not a replacement for abyseea exp. its not even comparable. double exp was nice for dynamis trials and killing in majarmi birds to cap exp. however that is one camp.

Well, the dev post on the JP forum today just confirmed that you will not be able to obtain capacity points in Abyssea. There goes that dream then.

I think it is a good move actually. I really have not played much at all the last few months, but this is the kind of thing that would get me to log in someone frequently. You can do it alone, at your own pace and *hopefully* enhance your favorite jobs by a noticeable degree.

YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES!

Wouldn't get me to party more, frankly all I've been doing lately is playing the game solo, doing quests to get trust npc's, soloing dyna and limbus on SMN cause I can, doing GoV pages with my trust NPC's. And just by doing that and having a bunch of RoE active I've been making a ton of exp just by doing what I'd normally be doing, I've made around 20 merit points so far. I really don't see the need to make grind parties, in or out of abyssea, when you can just play the game and get exp now.

SMN is not like it was at 75 or even 99. Gear is much much much much better. Make a party with some friends. hell if level sync works i can see smn burns coming back.

its not like smn is your only job, use your job selection to compliment your jobs.

of course its going to be a grind in or out abyssea. its a grind now. you may not notice because you are already head of the curve.

Not that Trust hasn't thoroughly killed the mechanic already, but it sounds like you won't accrue the new points while under Level Sync.

it probably will be one or the other. either way, why would you want to solo? it will be slower and lonely.