Job points = another form of merit points?

[Dragoy]

Lithera,

As far as I understand, the “adaptor” would be unnecessary for the slim version which has the ethernet port, but regardless, I wouldn't have a hard-drive either, and I was thinking back to the times of the larger versions of the console indeed.

That stuff just didn't happen here (much).

[Ziyyigo-Tipyigo]

As far as I understand, the “adaptor” would be unnecessary for the slim version which has the ethernet port

The adapter for the fat PS2 served two functions: ethernet/modem, and IDE connections for the hard drive.

[Mirage]

It could technically be made to use an USB hard drive for data storage, but the PS2 only has USB 1.1 so it would be *pretty* slow.

[Calatilla]

Why do I keep seeing "limited camps" mentioned? There are 9 different zones in adoulin, not including cavern areas that people can exp in, 9. Whitegate had 2, maybe 3 decent merit camps at 75. The only limit here is how far you're willing to travel, and with everywhere linked by waypoint I don't think that will even be an issue.

[Ravenmore]

Why do I keep seeing "limited camps" mentioned? There are 9 different zones in adoulin, not including cavern areas that people can exp in, 9. Whitegate had 2, maybe 3 decent merit camps at 75. The only limit here is how far you're willing to travel, and with everywhere linked by waypoint I don't think that will even be an issue.

Why were there only 3 decent camps in ToAu. Same reason there will be only a couple of decent camps in SoA. What made the bird camp the best camp was number of mobs, how fast they spawn and how little they did. You only went to the other camps when the bird camp was taken and only went to trolls when you had no other choice. So far I haven't seen one camp that is anywhere near as good as bird camp and only a hand full that came any where close to Mamool Ja staging point. Then toss in all the people running around with trust NPCs and camps get even tighter.

Another thing I seen a couple time is people think that book burns will be viable for JPs, they won't be since the JPs will only be coming from the mobs. Knowing SE the amount of JP a mob gives will be tied to how much exp they give and there is a very high chance they won't be 1:1 so that limits camps even more. Any way you try to slice it there are not enough camps.

[Aldersyde]

Why were there only 3 decent camps in ToAu. Same reason there will be only a couple of decent camps in SoA. What made the bird camp the best camp was number of mobs, how fast they spawn and how little they did. You only went to the other camps when the bird camp was taken and only went to trolls when you had no other choice. So far I haven't seen one camp that is anywhere near as good as bird camp and only a hand full that came any where close to Mamool Ja staging point. Then toss in all the people running around with trust NPCs and camps get even tighter.

Another thing I seen a couple time is people think that book burns will be viable for JPs, they won't be since the JPs will only be coming from the mobs. Knowing SE the amount of JP a mob gives will be tied to how much exp they give and there is a very high chance they won't be 1:1 so that limits camps even more. Any way you try to slice it there are not enough camps.

All this. Sure SoA zones are full of mobs...mostly mobs no one in their right mind would want to fight if they wanted a good return on the effort expended.

[Xantavia]

All this. Sure SoA zones are full of mobs...mostly mobs no one in their right mind would want to fight if they wanted a good return on the effort expended.

Yup, that has been the key all along when it comes to "no camps". It is more that some players don't want to fight mobs that make them have to pay attention to what they are doing. They want mobs with low defense, low offense, and relatively safe tp moves

[Ravenmore]

Yup, that has been the key all along when it comes to "no camps". It is more that some players don't want to fight mobs that make them have to pay attention to what they are doing. They want mobs with low defense, low offense, and relatively safe tp moves

It's more then that, what they want is speed and to make the most of their play time, mobs that are harder are slower to kill. More so the brds and healers that are whoring out those jobs to gear their DDs are going to want speed far more then the DDs just wanting to get something. Back at 75 I could find DDs even good DDs all day that would be more then willing to go kill trolls just to make some progress but getting that rdm or brd to go was not going to happen unless they owed you a favor. So when you say some players what you really should say is most support classes and when the people that are class whoring are done they won't be taking one for the team and getting on those jobs to help they will be seeking on their DDs to cap them out.

[Krashport]

Maybe we can also accumulate these "Job points" by participating in Campaign seeing that they're updating it.

[Ziyyigo-Tipyigo]

The nice thing about Abyssea was that it gave a chance for healers/supports/tanks to play half-assed and still get EXP just like everybody else.

Seriously, tanking colibri and imps felt like a job.