Cait Sith....meh?

[leorez]

^ yes even shiva's sleepga is ward...i have a weird feeling this is just a rushed bad attempt to give a promised avatar instead of thinking it through and adding something that would get some good use. I like the raise stuff, though like most people said, if your on SMN your already a mage sub so your not getting much out of it anyways except the arise. Its like they had ideas for both cait and phoenix sitting around and they just quickly mashed the 2 together for the sake of putting something out.

Id rather wait longer and get something i would actually use more than as just a 1hr than have this tbh. Only thing i can see redeeming it is if the higher level BPs (if we even get them) are well worth it. I was also in the camp that cait or phoenix would be a light version of fenrir basically.

[Damane]

but its a cat and so cute and kawai ^-^ (and I'm probably gonna murder it because it will die instantly trying to get arisega up)

[Edyth]

PHOENIX CONFIRMED!!!!!!

It just looks like Cait Sith. Was this done because so many people asked for Phoenix? It wasn't that we wanted a raising pet; it was that we wanted to see and command Phoenix in the flesh, and this blood pact set-up confirms that will never happen, unless Cait Sith's wards were to be transferred to Phoenix one day.

We really just wanted Phoenix in all her glory to rise from the ashes. Pretty lame that of all the avatars, she's the de facto dead one.

[Behemothx]

Why don't you all wait until it's released before going nuts over nothing? You're all wondering why SE doesn't look/reply at these posts more often, I sure as hell don't blame them.

[Demonjustin]

Why don't you all wait until it's released before going nuts over nothing? You're all wondering why SE doesn't look/reply at these posts more often, I sure as hell don't blame them.

Why wait? Once the avatar is released they are even more unlikely to go back and fix it or change concepts they currently have for the avatar. Look at the SP2s, RDM was terrible, we said it was, they changed it, it got worse, we said it was terrible, they left it, it was released, it's still terrible. It's not rocket science to predict these things are going to be terribly bad, sadly, it's very predictable, Raise and Reraise are both things we get from a subjob as it is, everything else listed is unlikely to land, or unlikely to be more powerful than that of other Avatars, which leaves Cait as being bad. If we say nothing now it's only going to make things less likely to change in the long run.

[Rwolf]

I completely blame them for not looking at these posts more often. It's their job, FFXI is not some free-to-play indie project. I'm sure customer service reps for utility and phone companies don't want to listen and answer calls, but they do. And it certainly doesn't justify not doing it.

While there is a certain level of artistry to MMO's, it is very heavily dependant on retaining customers. I don't see anything anyone is disappointed in as offensive or overbearing. Listening to the playerbase and changing things appropriate is not always inheritantly bad. A lot of SMNs would love to summon Phoenix at some point. Valid concern/feedback. A lot of people don't feel confident in Cait Sith's pacts so far and wondering how this took 3 years since the reason they kept giving us was they needed to work on not only the quests but figure out what to give her. Another valid concern/feedback. Something I've exclaimed a lot on this forum, this is primary a place for feedback and concerns. If complaints and feedback seem high, it's because it's the nature of the a feedback forum. I've managed and done customer service for years, I don't internalize complaints. I listen, ignore negative information, pull away information that is helpful, mitigate if the conversation is getting out of control, and respond with change or reason why it will not change. That is work.

I'm personally not happy with the current move set and I hope that listening to subject matter we are discussing will change this in the future. I'd still personally like to see the raise related pacts shifted to Phoenix in the future. Given Cait Sith's story background, I'd like to see her be more of a BRD type time buff/debuff and light damage based avatar. Marches and Elegy to fit in the theme of time and play on that SMN blood pacts borrow a lot of abilities from different jobs. Possibly a play on words "Cait Nip" pact.

I don't personally like the though of making Cait Sith a "Carbuncle 2.0". I'd like Carbuncle to be buffed so it has it's own place separately. Which it still does with this move set (healing/erasing), but it's something to consider going forward with any 75+ pacts.

[Sapphires]

I completely blame them for not looking at these posts more often. It's their job, FFXI is not some free-to-play indie project.

Agreat deal of 'feedback' posts tend to be the vocal minority that want things overpowered/nerfed/easymode'd. Just because they dont respond individually to every post doesnt mean they aren't listening to feedback from the community reps or lurking and reading the forums themselves.

Its far more important for the developers to weigh the long term health of the game and introduce changes or new content conservatively. If cait sith is truly terrible then they will adjust it later, I don't think they want another alexander/perfect defense debacle like before so Cait isn't going to be the end-all be all avatar some people think they deserve.

Pretty much every MMO in existence would be terrible or die off as an unbalanced mess if devs caved into every half baked idea coming the vocal minority of forum posters that are largely biased towards their own in-game goals or favorite jobs.

Most people are too busy playing the game enjoying it for what it is, or post on other forums than this one, and those of us that post here don't really represent a fair and balanced view of the game.

[Rwolf]

Agreat deal of 'feedback' posts tend to be the vocal minority that want things overpowered/nerfed/easymode'd. Just because they dont respond individually to every post doesnt mean they aren't listening to feedback from the community reps or lurking and reading the forums themselves.

Its far more important for the developers to weigh the long term health of the game and introduce changes or new content conservatively. If cait sith is truly terrible then they will adjust it later, I don't think they want another alexander/perfect defense debacle like before so Cait isn't going to be the end-all be all avatar some people think they deserve.

Pretty much every MMO in existence would be terrible or die off as an unbalanced mess if devs caved into every half baked idea coming the vocal minority of forum posters that are largely biased towards their own in-game goals or favorite jobs.

Most people are too busy playing the game enjoying it for what it is, or post on other forums than this one, and those of us that post here don't really represent a fair and balanced view of the game.

You didn't understand my post. It was in response to saying people being negative is why they don't respond. Matsui himself has even admitted in the past on the forums that he doesn't like replying to our posts because of the tone (in the letter to english speaking players thread), I am also referencing to that. You need to read my entire post over again. I said nothing of the sort of implementing every thing someone comes up with in the forums. Don't push your negative views of the community here to fit my post, so you can quote me and rant about it. Because it wasn't even the point of what I was talking about.

[Clou777]

i hope the favor is regain, anything else isnt really worth the wait

[Brightshadow]

I agree we knew what she was bringing to the game, due to the abilities used in her mission battle; however, she only had 5 abilities in that battle so what we were more hopeful about is the other potential bloodpacts that she could have brought into the game. I doubt they been working on her for 3 years its more like 2 days of work and they called it a day because even if SE put to the side 10 minutes a day to work on Cait Sith in the time span of 3 years she would have been much more balanced and useful, all they worked on adding to her is her arisega because the other abilities already existed and all they really needed was adjustments so players wouldn't be able to use them at full strength.