The struggle of Supporter Jobs other then BRD

[Olor]

I think this armor argument is a bit of a derail, as this thread was about making support jobs other than bard better at their main role, which is support.

[Malithar]

Gonna bump this on to the top for you Camate. ;P Give us the word on that massive Geo post, and what Idris' +10 Geomancy Skill really is purty please.

[Camate]

Greetings!

I’d like to give you all an overview of what we have planned in regards to geomancer adjustments, only (and I do mean only) because Malithar bumped the thread! (Of course I'm kidding and would have shared the information with everyone regardless!)

• Adjustments to geomancy effects
  Just as how songs are enhanced with instruments, we’ll be making it so that geomancy effects are boosted by adding stats that will increase the effects of geomancy to certain equipment.
  
  The geomancer ergon weapon “Idris” has this type of effect, but in the June version update we will be adding other equipment that boosts the effects of geomancy.
  
  (Idris has “Geomancy skill + 10”, but this doesn’t add 10 skill to your geomancy skill, it actually boosts the stats of geomancy spells.)
  
  
• Luopan durability
  In the May version update we boosted the damage reduction trait of luopans, but in addition to this we will be adding equipment that will further reduce the damage luopans receive in the future.
  
  
• Additional magic
  While this is a bit in the future, we will be adding new geomancy spells that have support effects for physical attacks.

[Rwolf]

I just hope that "support effects for physical attacks" new geomancy spells is Haste. Just regular ol' Haste. No -delay. COR's Blitzer's Roll is never used. Tell the development team to loosen their vice grip on Haste in general. The only two forms of AoE Haste is a support job accessible Blood Pact and Marches. I don't think it'll destroy either job if other jobs get access via other methods like a Hastega scroll, Accession + Haste, Blitzer's Roll changed to Haste and Geomancy Haste.

[Raydeus]

"Only because Malithar..."

—Camate - 2014

[dasva]

But if you are posting because Malithar bumped the threading asking what Idris did exactly how come you didn't tell us what it did just what it didn't do

[Kari]

I just hope that "support effects for physical attacks" new geomancy spells is Haste. Just regular ol' Haste. No -delay. COR's Blitzer's Roll is never used. Tell the development team to loosen their vice grip on Haste in general. The only two forms of AoE Haste is a support job accessible Blood Pact and Marches. I don't think it'll destroy either job if other jobs get access via other methods like a Hastega scroll, Accession + Haste, Blitzer's Roll changed to Haste and Geomancy Haste.

I wouldn't mind seeing Haste, but I also wouldn't mind them doing other buffs for physical attacks as long as they are potent and don't have drawbacks.

[Zhronne]

COR's Blitzer's Roll is never used.

True.
But this is because it has a negative impact on TP gain.
We're getting the TPgain formula adjusted in June, they *might* make it so stuff like Blitzer's Roll becomes a viable option again.

[Olor]

I just hope that "support effects for physical attacks" new geomancy spells is Haste. Just regular ol' Haste. No -delay. COR's Blitzer's Roll is never used. Tell the development team to loosen their vice grip on Haste in general. The only two forms of AoE Haste is a support job accessible Blood Pact and Marches. I don't think it'll destroy either job if other jobs get access via other methods like a Hastega scroll, Accession + Haste, Blitzer's Roll changed to Haste and Geomancy Haste.

Actually there is also diffusioned blu spells, but your point still sticks! What about indi-regain? If it actually gave decent regain it might be more useful than haste since haste does have a cap... then you could have geo and bard in a party.

But if you are posting because Malithar bumped the threading asking what Idris did exactly how come you didn't tell us what it did just what it didn't do

He says it boosts spells like Bard's instruments. Can infer from that. If +10 acts the same as it would on a bard instrument mythic GEO's refresh would actually be very nice - maybe worthwhile to stick one in a mage party of an alliance (ha ha ha that assumes mages would be useful for content!)

Still though, sad that a GEO would have to get a mythic to better (at refresh) than a semi-decent bard with AF3, the JSE harp, and the harp from a T2 abyssea VNM. Granted they would also be faster at it...

But still, devs should consider, a bard can get +12 refresh without anything harder to get than the JSE instrument.

[Korvana]

Please call it "Geomancy Effect +10" instead of "Geomancy Skill +10".