Please remove COP requirements on reforged relic and AF

[Gannon]

Time that takes exponentially longer than everything else and provides zero fun or entertainment. It is literally running for hours on end.

The actual gear requires items that you trade in. This pre-requirement to being able to do that should not exist.

It does exist and be glad it's a one time requirement. It's been mentioned a lot already, but it's a lot quicker and easier than when the rest of us had to do it. Just get them done and never look at it again for crying out loud.

[Crevox]

It does exist and be glad it's a one time requirement. It's been mentioned a lot already, but it's a lot quicker and easier than when the rest of us had to do it. Just get them done and never look at it again for crying out loud.

You're ignoring a perfectly valid suggestion with "yeah it's bad but not as bad as people say, just grin and bear it." You appear to agree with the suggestion if you agree it's bad.

It's not even good from a lore reason. I have to do a ridiculously long series of quests just to make one NPC happy enough to craft armor for me? So silly.

[Gannon]

Lots of this game is gated by quests. Sky, Sea, Dynamis, Limbus, Neo AA/DM fights, etc. If you can't handle that like the rest of us, this game isn't for you.

[Crevox]

Lots of this game is gated by quests. Sky, Sea, Dynamis, Limbus, Neo AA/DM fights, etc. If you can't handle that like the rest of us, this game isn't for you.

Here we are again, in the suggestion topic asking for them to remove it as a requirement! People seem to forget what topic they're posting in.

Man, all you people just repeat the same stuff over and over again. "We hate doing this stuff, but we had to do it, so you should too!" Not only that, you're grouping all quests together as a complaint. No, we're saying we want CoP removed from being a requirement for something we believe would be better off without it.

SE adds a new set of armor, yet you need to have completed hours/days of questing implemented 10 years ago in order to access it.

It's a suggestion thread. Stop just ultimately saying "it is how it is, deal with it or quit." It COULD change and make a better game, hence the thread suggesting that change. If you agree that it's not fun, why don't you just support the suggestion instead of just telling everyone "too bad?"

[Gannon]

Better for who? the 3 people who refuse to enjoy the game's lore or just "grin and bear it"? The dev time spent on your pointless suggestion could be better spent elsewhere. Face it, you two are in the minority here.

[Crevox]

Better for who? the 3 people who refuse to enjoy the game's lore or just "grin and bear it"? The dev time spent on your pointless suggestion could be better spent elsewhere.

3 people? How about every newbie player that starts up this game and is unable to do ANY of the content everyone else is doing because they haven't completed days of questing first? In addition to being unable to turn in items for armor that would be useful for said content.

I can enjoy the game's lore on youtube or a wiki. I would enjoy the entirety of the story in a fraction of the time. The story is great. That's fine. Everything in between that makes it take forever is not. Even putting that aside, you can leave all that in there, but it shouldn't be left as a requirement to be completed for current 2014 content.

I played for ~2 months. After all that, I still can't even do AA fights and most other things, and people said I went through it fast. People have to spend over 2 months playing before they can play with anyone else in current content?

[Gannon]

You are assuming every newbie to join this game will be as uninterested in the game or as friendless as you are. Any yes, I expect any newbie to pay their dues before they can join current content.

Edit: and on the Youtube comment, why bother playing any game when you can watch it on Youtube, eh?

[Crevox]

You are assuming every newbie to join this game will be as uninterested in the game or as friendless as you are. Any yes, I expect any newbie to pay their dues before they can join current content.

Edit: and on the Youtube comment, why bother playing any game when you can watch it on Youtube, eh?

Because in content in other MMORPGs, you battle things. You are constantly told a story. You are doing something fun and interesting. In CoP, you do none of this. 99% of the time is spent running or doing pointless fetch missions before you can actually get to the STORY parts of it. You get tiny little bits and pieces spread across MANY grueling hours. If I could just those bits and pieces one after another without RUNNING for hours on end, then great, CoP is awesome. But that's just not the case.

I never said I was uninterested in the game. I played it for ~2 months, and I had fun. I did not have fun doing CoP though. It is an extremely annoying requirement that I had no choice but to grin and bear; and I wish they would change it. Here we are, suggestion topic!

I expect any newbie to pay their dues

What the heck does this even mean?

as friendless

What does this have to do with anything and where are you getting this from?

[Gannon]

Then play a different MMORPG? FFXI isn't other MMORPGs.

What the heck does this even mean?

Do your missions/quests.

What does this have to do with anything and where are you getting this from?

Clearly you can't get help for said missions/quests.

[Crevox]

Then play a different MMORPG? FFXI isn't other MMORPGs.


Do your missions/quests.

Aaaand now you've given up. Ultimately, as always, you and everyone else falls back on the same thing. "Do it because it's required or play a different game." Your logic makes no sense, as what the heck are "dues" and why am I paying them? It doesn't have to be a requirement. There's no reason for it to be.

Clearly you can't get help for said missions/quests.

There is no helping. No one can help me run across a field for hours on end to get from one place to the next. Even as a summoner with Fleet Wind, it still takes forever. You gotta go from point A to point B, and that's just all there is to it. No one can make that "faster." You just have to do it, and that is not fun at all. The strange thing is that everyone who is arguing against this change agrees that it's not fun, and yet they still just say "we did it, so you should have to too!"

Once again, welcome to the suggestion topic asking for them to change it so it's not a requirement. A change that would avoid having to do something not fun. A change that would improve the experience for new players, and make them play the game longer and get to enjoy the fun parts of the game, avoiding the dull, boring, running for hours on end through 10 year old content, solo, in an MMORPG.

You people just like really want your game to die, as you clearly don't care at all whether or not new players stick to the game and enjoy it.