Please remove COP requirements on reforged relic and AF

[Gannon]

as you clearly don't care at all whether or not new players stick to the game and enjoy it.

No, I just don't care if YOU stick with this game or enjoy it, cause you are clearly the type we don't want in this game.

[Crevox]

No, I just don't care if YOU stick with this game or enjoy it, cause you are clearly the type we don't want in this game.

You find me a new player that wants to do all of that. I certainly couldn't, as like I said in the other topic, I started the game and found ~6 other people also starting out the game for the first time and made an LS with them. Guess what? They all quit. They quit because of the insane requirements they had to complete before they could do the same stuff everyone else was doing. It was boring. Good bye, 6 paying subscribers.

I was the only one who completed CoP, and after all that, it was as boring and time consuming as we all thought it was going to be. In fact, I'm exactly the type of player "you people" (as you said "we" for some reason, as if you're representing the community) should want in the game, as I was actually willing to do all of it. No one else is.

You just don't seem to understand that players nowadays aren't going to do all of this. They're going to see it and how boring it is, and just go play a different game, an actual fun game. This game has potential to be very fun, and has tons of great, enjoyable content on it. It's just too bad it's all locked behind stupid stuff like this, and people quit before they can even experience it. Welcome to the suggestion topic!

The game just isn't going to retain new players, and thus survive into the future, without positive changes to that new player experience. SE has done a lot of good things. Here is another one.

[Darkdragongers]

well you can solo Bst or Pup on all Mission/Quest

[Stephenjd]

Final Fantasy games have always been story-based, FFXI is no different. If you want a game which is far more loot-based, there are many WoW clones or WoW itself. Or if you don't want a MMORPG I hear Diablo 3 has an expansion out soon.

[Demonjustin]

No, I just don't care if YOU stick with this game or enjoy it, cause you are clearly the type we don't want in this game.

What kind of people do we want in this game? People who don't mind wasting time on things nearly completely unrelated to that which they are trying to achieve? No one has said what negative impact on the game this has at all, if you want to argue that they have to spend development time on it, well guess what, they had to spend development time tying the two NPCs together so that CoP mattered for this, they didn't have to do it, that's obvious by the fact Relic +2 had no connections, it could have been done perfectly fine without it from what we know and yet they did it anyways.

Please tell me, what kind of people do we want in this game? What does doing CoP solo over the course of days prove that makes them the kind of player we want here?

well you can solo Bst or Pup on all Mission/Quest

If you read the posts in this thread you would understand that completing the missions is not difficult, doing it solo and flying through it easily is part of the issue, as well as the fact that the grand majority of it is running around and wasting time.

Final Fantasy games have always been story-based, FFXI is no different. If you want a game which is far more loot-based, there are many WoW clones or WoW itself. Or if you don't want a MMORPG I hear Diablo 3 has an expansion out soon.

'Go play another game' isn't a good response to such a stupidly easy issue that could be solved in no time by removing a simple restriction that need not be there in the first place. It does nothing but hurt new players while affecting next to no player who has played more than a month or 2 because by that point they will have been told to do CoP for their Rajas anyways unless they play mages only. Basically, this adjustment would help new players, instead, people are advocating for leaving it as it is even though it would not hurt them at all if it were changed, and would only serve to aid newer players in the end.

[Stephenjd]

Newer players should not be looking for ilevel gear yet anyway, just because you rushed to 99 does not mean you are entitled to the gear that others have been working to for years. Again, if you want to rush to endgame within a week, there are other games that may suit you. It's people like those in this thread that made CoP "boring" in the first place by crying that it was too hard...

[Zarchery]

Really? You don't think telling a player that they have to go through what you said yourself is 8 hours of CSs, let alone all of the running around, talking to NPCs, farming up meaningless items for a quest off of monsters you can kill in a single hit, and battlefields that are a flat out joke now days, all so they can get some entry level gear, would turn them off of this game? You are talking about someone coming to play this game who is being told they have to go do boring solo content just so they can get some gear even if they have already obtained everything else required, and not some solo content that takes 10 minutes, but something that will take them days.

Reforged gear is not entry level gear. Sparks gear is. You get that in a couple hours of knocking out Records of Eminence.

[Zarchery]

It's not a matter of time and effort it's a matter of doing content that provides no challenge, entertainment, and is nothing more than a roadblock that wastes your time.

Farming sparks provides no challenge, and is nothing more than a roadblock. Neither is gaining XP. Or farming currency for a relic. Or farming gil. Almost every task in this game lacks challenge. You arbitrarily label things as "just a roadblock" on the simple basis of "I don't feel like doing this, so it's unnecessary. Get rid of it.".

My entire point through this whole thing is that your suggestion of "get rid of the CoP requirement" has no more merit than "get rid of the need for gil" or "get rid of experience points" or "get rid of sparks". You guys keep pretending it does because you just don't want to do it and think that's enough. I don't want to do Delve. Should I be allowed a free Whirlpool Mask or Oatixurs?

[Zarchery]

I just noticed that Crevox is the same guy who's been around for like 3 months and started that big "I quit" thread at the beginning of February. Why is it that the biggest malcontents who dislike the game project this onto everybody? I've been seeing this since 2005. It's like "I don't like this game, there's no way anyone could, it's clearly dying unless they custom tailor it the way I like". Same thing, year after year, since 2005.

[Sfchakan]

It sounds like you are playing the wrong game if you are not willing to put in the time and effort required for your items.

This!

I'm glad they're not on my server, but I'm sure there's a few entitled individuals like this here. I wish more of them would post here so that I can know who to avoid in game.

With all of the time he's spent on here whining and replying, he'd be done with 3 Paths easily and be in the home stretch. Especially if he spams Enter during those Impossible To Gauge cutscenes!